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 Post subject: Re: Jim Finks
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I have an old bears yearbook written by Cooper Rollow. It mentions that Walsh was a candidate for the Bears job before the '78 season. Of course that job went to Neill Armstrong. Did Finks decide to pick Armstrong over Walsh or did Walsh decide not to come to the midwest (there was speculation he did not want to leave the west coast).

Finks was a fine GM but as much as people think Ditka is overrated, I tend to think Finks was a bit overrated. He thoroughly botched the Qb position for about 8 years. Felt he could win with any QB, that he could find the next Joe Kapp. Wasted most of Walter's prime years.


I found an article that said Finks passed over Walsh in 78 for Neill Armstrong... :oops: :oops:

And like Pace, Finks could never seem to find a QB

Quite frankly, Halas never cared for the Paul Brown style of offensive football and likely never would've signed off on it.

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You guys act as if the rest of the league was a bunch of bums. Niners, Giants, Bills, Broncos and Skins were all loaded..better QBs also.


84 lost to the Super Bowl Champs 49ers
86 lost to a 12-4 Redskins team
87 lost to the Super Bowl Champs Redskins
88 lost to Super Bowl Champs 49ers

The Bears had the misfortune of putting together their most dynastic team during a streak where the NFC ripped off 12 straight Super Bowl wins. That NFC from 1983 to 1993 was hellacious to play in.
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 Post subject: Re: Jim Finks
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Finks put together arguably the best paired offensive and defensive lines ever.

Dent and Hampton in the HoF and Mongo a 5x All Pro and 95 career sack man playing largely on the interior.

Colvert, Hilgenberg, and Bortz all made All Pro at least once, and Thayer and Van Horne started about 300 games between them.

Unreal.
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 Post subject: Re: Jim Finks
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Finks put together arguably the best paired offensive and defensive lines ever.

Dent and Hampton in the HoF and Mongo a 5x All Pro and 95 career sack man playing largely on the interior.

Colvert, Hilgenberg, and Bortz all made All Pro at least once, and Thayer and Van Horne started about 300 games between them.

Unreal.

Obviously those lines were great but the mid-70s Steelers get the all-time nod IMO.

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 Post subject: Re: Jim Finks
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I have an old bears yearbook written by Cooper Rollow. It mentions that Walsh was a candidate for the Bears job before the '78 season. Of course that job went to Neill Armstrong. Did Finks decide to pick Armstrong over Walsh or did Walsh decide not to come to the midwest (there was speculation he did not want to leave the west coast).

Finks was a fine GM but as much as people think Ditka is overrated, I tend to think Finks was a bit overrated. He thoroughly botched the Qb position for about 8 years. Felt he could win with any QB, that he could find the next Joe Kapp. Wasted most of Walter's prime years.


I found an article that said Finks passed over Walsh in 78 for Neill Armstrong... :oops: :oops:

And like Pace, Finks could never seem to find a QB

Quite frankly, Halas never cared for the Paul Brown style of offensive football and likely never would've signed off on it.


Finks had free reign through the Armstrong era.

And there is nothing in Finks history to lead us to think that he was a pass first offense type of guy.

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Seacrest wrote:
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Seacrest wrote:
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I have an old bears yearbook written by Cooper Rollow. It mentions that Walsh was a candidate for the Bears job before the '78 season. Of course that job went to Neill Armstrong. Did Finks decide to pick Armstrong over Walsh or did Walsh decide not to come to the midwest (there was speculation he did not want to leave the west coast).

Finks was a fine GM but as much as people think Ditka is overrated, I tend to think Finks was a bit overrated. He thoroughly botched the Qb position for about 8 years. Felt he could win with any QB, that he could find the next Joe Kapp. Wasted most of Walter's prime years.


I found an article that said Finks passed over Walsh in 78 for Neill Armstrong... :oops: :oops:

And like Pace, Finks could never seem to find a QB

Quite frankly, Halas never cared for the Paul Brown style of offensive football and likely never would've signed off on it.

In that era, especially, you didn't have to be "pass first". Absolutely correct that Finks focused on the front lines of both sides. I still maintain that approach works today...especially on offense. I dominant offensive line could make even (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky serviceable.
Finks had free reign through the Armstrong era.

And there is nothing in Finks history to lead us to think that he was a pass first offense type of guy.

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 Post subject: Re: Jim Finks
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Finks went to a Super Bowl with Joe Kapp as a QB.

Evert time he threw a pass, Packer fans thought it was duck hunting season.

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