He has definitely had some dominant games, but I don't think he's been consistent enough to call him a dominant player.

_________________

It's not saying that Pace is a success. It's about how Pace has made a large number of terrible decisions but he has undoubtedly improved the team despite those as his time here has gone on. We can project that he is going to return us to what we were prior to him being hired but there still has to be a reason why the Bears have been an above average team for the last 3 years. The answer may be "It was a one year fluke" or the answer may be Mack is that good to make an average team elite, and a bad team average.

_________________
You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

I agree with TM.

_________________

He doesn't make the splash plays at a high rate, but he was consistently really good to great last year. It appears that his mental issues are being treated well.

_________________
Be well

GO BEARS!!!

Thanks for making my point.

_________________
“Mr. Trump is unfit for our nation’s highest office.”- JD Vance
“My god, what an !diot.”- JD Vance tweet on Trump
“I’m a ‘Never Trump’ guy”- JD Vance

What point was that? The discussion was if Pace has improved the Bears in his time here even with a significant amount of bad moves. The argument being presented was about three seasons compared to another three seasons and the time before that and your response was "Looks a lot worse if we don't count one of those three seasons". Well yeah, Aaron Rodgers looks a lot worse as a quarterback if we throw out the year he won the Super Bowl too.

_________________
You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

Ryan Pace: The Aaron Rodgers of GMs. That's certainly a take.

_________________
Fare you well, fare you well
I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul

If only it was true.

_________________

I'm not sure he has. He has the worst win% as a Bears GM over the last twenty years.


Ryan Pace .438 (0 playoff wins)
Phil Emery .479 (0 playoff wins)
Jerry Angelo .540 (3 playoff wins)

And I get it. After Emery left and with the Trestman debacle, the Bears were nearly at rock bottom. But even Emery had a double digit win team, and another that was one play away from winning a division.

_________________

I have to respect that level of redirection of an argument. I was clearly saying they were the same and I will argue incessantly with you that Aaron Rodgers and Ryan Pace are the same.

_________________
You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

Interesting. In terms of Super Bowl Championships, nobody has done less with more than Aaron Rodgers and the Chicago Bears franchise.

_________________

I really liked Pace's plan going in. According to him he planned to:

A - Stay put and get a good player
B - Move up if a QB was there to be had
C - Move up if they identified another position player they felt had value to be had

He really narrowed down his potential options from 3 (Move up/Move down/Stay) to 2. Nice.

_________________
You know me like that.

He went after the one position that can turn around a franchise for a decade. No other player could individually impact an NFL team like a starting QB. I am actually excited now to see Fields. I would love for that to work out and have Nagy and Pace get extensions. No way I am rooting against my team just to see Pace get fired.

_________________
Hawaii (fuck) You

Exactly my brother. Why the hell would I automatically hate picks or hope for my team to lose just because Pace or Nagy. Living your life like that is weird.

_________________
Elections have consequences.

_________________
Fare you well, fare you well
I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul

Wasn't he the racist WR on Philly or something?

_________________
Successful calls:

Kyrie Irving will never win anything as a team's alpha: check
T.rubisky is a bust: check
Ben Simmons is a liability: check
The Fields Cult is dumb: double check

2013 CSFMB ROY

Plenty reasons to fire Pace but a 5th rounder from 3 drafts ago not making the roster is hardly one of them. Do better!

That was Riley Cooper(white guy) not even close

Both six round picks Graham Jr and Dazz Newsome don't' make the 53 man roster. Not good Pace.

No, it isn't.

_________________

He sucks.

_________________

They really pimped that Dazz Newsome guy as the next savior whoops!

Cmon dude, year 7 and Not A Single Playoff win

_________________

Charles Snowden and Deiter Eiselen got cut too. Who the fuck did make the roster?

_________________
"Yes, I would just like to say I'm sailing with the rock, and I'll be back, like Independence Day, with Jesus. June 6, like the movie. Big mother ship and all, I'll be back, I'll be back."

A few guys flashed some ability in the pre season, Fields most notably, and if he's good it covers up a ton of failures, but Gipson looked to have developed a bit, Borom seems to at least have the ability to play RT, and have to think guys like Kmet will be better this year.

The opinion of many of the posters here is that Pace/Nagy have at least a few years, and that is likely correct, but wonder if a 4-5 win season gets both guys launched? That said, this year is all about Fields and his development, it is almost like this year has been written off by ownership. While other franchises are starting rookie QB's because they want to speed up the evaluation process and figure out if they have something so they can build around the young QB while he's still on a rookie deal, the Bears seem content to do things the old fashioned way, there is always that doubt in the back of your mind that this franchise will go nowhere under the current ownership.

It would be very bears-like to draft a 1st round QB, put him under the tutelage of a bunch of dumbasses for a year, launch those guys and then have the QB reset everything in year 2.

_________________

Unfortunately I think that's absolutely what will happen.

_________________

And the year 2 reset will be with some dipshit defensive minded coach

_________________
Fare you well, fare you well
I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul

Perfect choice

_________________
Fare you well, fare you well
I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul