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Wilber Marshall was the best linebacker in that trio.


Yeah..and Otis 2

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Which two of these Bears made the 1983 Pro Bowl?

Remember that amazing 1983 Bears squad that the nation could not get enough of?

Dan Hampton
Steve McMichael
Walter Payton
Jim McMahon
Richard Dent
Jim Osborne
Jimbo Covert
Otis Wilson
Mike Singletary
Gary Fencik
Willie Gault



I'll spot you that Walter was one.

Singletary was a great player. Stop trying to out-hipster everybody.

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Probowls mean dick.. you got Singletary over Hamp, Otis, Wilbur, Dent or Mcmichael?

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Singletary was a great player but Wilber was the best linebacker(talent wise) that's not a controversial take.


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Probowls mean dick.. you got Singletary over Hamp, Otis, Wilbur, Dent or Mcmichael?


I'm tired of the lazy narrative that Singletary sucked. He didn't. He was great.

He was surrounded by great players later. He was better than Otis in 1983. Wilbur was in HS when Singletary was coming in. He was better than McMichael. The same arguments people make against Singletary can be made against McMichael...

Singletary ran the D. He told those HoFers where to line up, what to key on, where the play was.

You don't play MLB on the Bears for 12 years and be an underperformer. It's the dumbest argument that Chicago ever came up with. Why? I'd take him today in a minute and drive him into town.

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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
312player wrote:
Probowls mean dick.. you got Singletary over Hamp, Otis, Wilbur, Dent or Mcmichael?


I'm tired of the lazy narrative that Singletary sucked. He didn't. He was great.

He was surrounded by great players later. He was better than Otis in 1983. Wilbur was in HS when Singletary was coming in. He was better than McMichael. The same arguments people make against Singletary can be made against McMichael...

Singletary ran the D. He told those HoFers where to line up, what to key on, where the play was.

You don't play MLB on the Bears for 12 years and be an underperformer. It's the dumbest argument that Chicago ever came up with. Why? I'd take him today in a minute and drive him into town.


Well said Doc. It is lazy narrative and it has been aided by how awful he was as a coach and some didn't like his outspoken religious beliefs.

Wilbur was the best LB in that crew, but that does not mean that Singletary was not really good as well.

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Gary Fencik and Willie Gault would be my answers.

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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
312player wrote:
Probowls mean dick.. you got Singletary over Hamp, Otis, Wilbur, Dent or Mcmichael?


I'm tired of the lazy narrative that Singletary sucked. He didn't. He was great.

He was surrounded by great players later. He was better than Otis in 1983. Wilbur was in HS when Singletary was coming in. He was better than McMichael. The same arguments people make against Singletary can be made against McMichael...

Singletary ran the D. He told those HoFers where to line up, what to key on, where the play was.

You don't play MLB on the Bears for 12 years and be an underperformer. It's the dumbest argument that Chicago ever came up with. Why? I'd take him today in a minute and drive him into town.


Well said Doc. It is lazy narrative and it has been aided by how awful he was as a coach and some didn't like his outspoken religious beliefs.

Wilbur was the best LB in that crew, but that does not mean that Singletary was not really good as well.

Any of the Singletary wasn’t that good nonsense should be put to bet by virtue of the fact that Buddy Ryan loved him. You guys think Ryan was going to hitch his wagon to a mediocre player ? Cmon he threw compliments around like manhole covers. He wouldn’t have heaped the praise he did on him if he wasn’t the great player he was .

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Any of the Singletary wasn’t that good nonsense should be put to bet by virtue of the fact that Buddy Ryan loved him. You guys think Ryan was going to hitch his wagon to a mediocre player ? Cmon he threw compliments around like manhole covers. He wouldn’t have heaped the praise he did on him if he wasn’t the great player he was .


That's a great point, too. Buddy tried to go to Philly and do the same thing with Mike Reichenbach.

Anybody remember Mike Reichenbach?

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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
badrogue17 wrote:
Any of the Singletary wasn’t that good nonsense should be put to bet by virtue of the fact that Buddy Ryan loved him. You guys think Ryan was going to hitch his wagon to a mediocre player ? Cmon he threw compliments around like manhole covers. He wouldn’t have heaped the praise he did on him if he wasn’t the great player he was .


That's a great point, too. Buddy tried to go to Philly and do the same thing with Mike Reichenbach.

Anybody remember Mike Reichenbach?


Yes

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It was a rhetorical question within the argument.

But I guess that’s 2. Anybody else?

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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
It was a rhetorical question within the argument.

But I guess that’s 2. Anybody else?


I lied, I honestly have no idea who that is. I like the name though - sounds tough.

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Mike Reichenbach was surrounded by Clyde Simmons and Jerome Brown and Reggie White and Andre Waters and Todd Bell and they lost to the Bears in the playoffs, led by the crappy Mike Singletary at age 30.

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Forgot Eric Allen, Seth Joyner, and Wes Hopkins.

There's another 10+ Pro-Bowls and a couple First Team All-Pros.

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Singletary sucks.


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You suck.

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Spaulding wrote:
Singletary sucks.

opinions of non bear fans are meaningless

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312player wrote:
Probowls mean dick.. you got Singletary over Hamp, Otis, Wilbur, Dent or Mcmichael?


Singletary was Defensive POY two times. Which is 2 more than all those players combined.

He is one of only eight players to win the award twice.


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RFDC wrote:
opinions of non bear fans are meaningless


Listen Ralph, I'm just trying to rile up Noisy. It's a wonderful life sucks too!!!


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Spaulding wrote:
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Listen Ralph, I'm just trying to rile up Noisy. It's a wonderful life sucks too!!!


Its a wonderful life sucks, that is true

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So now I'm pissed. I can say it but when somebody else does it's wrong.


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RFDC wrote:
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Listen Ralph, I'm just trying to rile up Noisy. It's a wonderful life sucks too!!!


Its a wonderful life sucks, that is true

No it doesn't. Ya knob.

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When you watch Singletary highlights you almost always see the exact same thing...Dan Hampton being and absolute monster, destroying offensive lineman, making it easy for #50.

The more you see an out of shape Hicks get washed down the line repeatedly after he comes of the ball high sack hunting, the more you appreciate #99 almost always playing the ultimate team game by coming off low, wrecking blocking schemes and forcing the back or QB to pause for a second and reroute himself.


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Yes, Dan Hampton was great. Maybe the toughest Bear in my lifetime and a pro bowl player at both tackle and end.

That doesn't mean Singletary was not. He definitely was and he was definitely better than Wilson and probably better than Marshall, who were both excellent in their own right.

He was first among many, many greats and he was there being great before most of them started playing.

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Willie Gault seems like a reasonable choice

I'll throw Kyle Orton out there

Curtis Conway (popular-ish for the late 90's)

Keith Traylor

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Keith Traylor is a good one.

Cap Bozo was popular for a bit I think.

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Nick Foles until he actually played, and for the first few games he actually played.

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Anthony "Spice" Adams.

You can find that guy all over Bears promotional shows but he was not particularly distinguished in his career or his time with the Bears

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I will add a vote for Willie Gault.

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