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I'm sick of the fucking talk. Fire Pace. Fine. Fire Nagy. Fine. Keep them both. Fine. Keep one of them. Fine. I don't give a shit.

Bottom line is if Justin Fields is great or not. If he's not, then I'll worry about the next kid QB we draft. That's all that matters in this fucking NFL. Do you have a great QB or do you not?


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I'm sick of the fucking talk. Fire Pace. Fine. Fire Nagy. Fine. Keep them both. Fine. Keep one of them. Fine. I don't give a shit.

Bottom line is if Justin Fields is great or not. If he's not, then I'll worry about the next kid QB we draft. That's all that matters in this fucking NFL. Do you have a great QB or do you not?

Seems like the only thing that keeps the NFL interesting is gambling. It is like you say. Either you have a QB or you don't and the defense has to play with one arm tied behind their back.

There's no Walter Paytons. There's no Earl Campbells. Hell, there's no Roger Craigs.


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I'm sick of the fucking talk. Fire Pace. Fine. Fire Nagy. Fine. Keep them both. Fine. Keep one of them. Fine. I don't give a shit.

Bottom line is if Justin Fields is great or not. If he's not, then I'll worry about the next kid QB we draft. That's all that matters in this fucking NFL. Do you have a great QB or do you not?

Seems like the only thing that keeps the NFL interesting is gambling. It is like you say. Either you have a QB or you don't and the defense has to play with one arm tied behind their back.

There's no Walter Paytons. There's no Earl Campbells. Hell, there's no Roger Craigs.


My thought is that fantasy football and gambling are what's ruining it for the rest of us. No one cares about a team except their own fantasy team or what one player scored for them. Most of the advertised/discussed betting is score-related or prop bets.

I don't have the time to excel at either, so I don't participate in either. Go ahead and cancel me now.


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I can very easily watch the 3 pm games and various night games even without a vested interest.

but the Bears are making me feel hopeless again. Fields is that glimmer of light but I feel that no matter who they hire, that person will mess him up.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 23, 2021 9:14 am 
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I can very easily watch the 3 pm games and various night games even without a vested interest.

but the Bears are making me feel hopeless again. Fields is that glimmer of light but I feel that no matter who they hire, that person will mess him up.


Pick your fucking head up. You don't have time to waste feeling sorry for yourself. Pour yourself a warm drink and sit down and watch the beloved. The future is bright my friend. 8)

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Nas wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
I can very easily watch the 3 pm games and various night games even without a vested interest.

but the Bears are making me feel hopeless again. Fields is that glimmer of light but I feel that no matter who they hire, that person will mess him up.


Pick your fucking head up. You don't have time to waste feeling sorry for yourself. Pour yourself a warm drink and sit down and watch the beloved. The future is bright my friend. 8)

Poor Justin Fields . Destined to be great if only ……

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Nas wrote:
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I can very easily watch the 3 pm games and various night games even without a vested interest.

but the Bears are making me feel hopeless again. Fields is that glimmer of light but I feel that no matter who they hire, that person will mess him up.


Pick your fucking head up. You don't have time to waste feeling sorry for yourself. Pour yourself a warm drink and sit down and watch the beloved. The future is bright my friend. 8)

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good dolphin wrote:
I can very easily watch the 3 pm games and various night games even without a vested interest.

but the Bears are making me feel hopeless again. Fields is that glimmer of light but I feel that no matter who they hire, that person will mess him up.


Pick your fucking head up. You don't have time to waste feeling sorry for yourself. Pour yourself a warm drink and sit down and watch the beloved. The future is bright my friend. 8)

Poor Justin Fields . Destined to be great if only ……


If the draft was held today Fields would be drafted no worse than #3. I'm not sure how great he'll be yet, but I'm fairly confident he's a solid NFL starter. He'll be your favorite Bears quarterback in a year or so.

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If the draft was held today Fields would be drafted no worse than #3.

Debatable.


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Beardown wrote:
I'm sick of the fucking talk. Fire Pace. Fine. Fire Nagy. Fine. Keep them both. Fine. Keep one of them. Fine. I don't give a shit.

Bottom line is if Justin Fields is great or not. If he's not, then I'll worry about the next kid QB we draft. That's all that matters in this fucking NFL. Do you have a great QB or do you not?

Well, you can tell everyone I'm a down disgrace Drag my name all over the place
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Caller Bob wrote:
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If the draft was held today Fields would be drafted no worse than #3.

Debatable.


What say you?

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Nas wrote:
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If the draft was held today Fields would be drafted no worse than #3.

Debatable.


What say you?

Lance, Jones maybe go before Fields. Chase also probably shoots up the boards in a redraft. You can't say for sure Fields is #2 or #3 in a redraft.


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Caller Bob wrote:
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If the draft was held today Fields would be drafted no worse than #3.

Debatable.


What say you?

Lance, Jones maybe go before Fields. Chase also probably shoots up the boards in a redraft. You can't say for sure Fields is #2 or #3 in a redraft.


No one takes Lance over Fields. The 49ers are trying to hide him now. I could see Jones going to the 49ers at 3. Of course I can't say for sure, but I think Fields would be playing for the Jets or possibly the Jaguars. Chase is probably a Falcon if they don't draft a Wilson or Lance.

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And outside of the 2nd half "almost comeback" against the Steelers, Justin Fields has been pretty bad too. All he has accomplished is that he's not as bad as Zach Wilson.


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And outside of the 2nd half "almost comeback" against the Steelers, Justin Fields has been pretty bad too. All he has accomplished is that he's not as bad as Zach Wilson.


His numbers suck, but I think the eye test tells a different story. He hasn't been worse than any quarterback except Mac Jones. All of the other quarterbacks have played easier schedules AND spent the offseason working with the starters.

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I'm sick of the fucking talk. Fire Pace. Fine. Fire Nagy. Fine. Keep them both. Fine. Keep one of them. Fine. I don't give a shit.

Bottom line is if Justin Fields is great or not. If he's not, then I'll worry about the next kid QB we draft. That's all that matters in this fucking NFL. Do you have a great QB or do you not?

Well, you can tell everyone I'm a down disgrace Drag my name all over the place
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1. Michah Parsons
2. Creed Humphrey
3. Rashawn Slater
4. Ja'Marr Chase
5. DeVonta Smith/Kyle Pitts

None of these QB's so far is worth a top 10 1st round pick, let alone a 12th overall + a top 5 1st round pick.


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. That's all that matters in this fucking NFL. Do you have a great QB or do you not?




DeShaun Watson was great and the Texans were not. So this isn’t always true.

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And outside of the 2nd half "almost comeback" against the Steelers, Justin Fields has been pretty bad too. All he has accomplished is that he's not as bad as Zach Wilson.




It’s too early to worry about Fields imo. The fact that he’s shown flashes here and there is a good sign. With Mitch, we got consistent mediocrity and average play with really bad sprinkled in more often than not so it was hard to see it with Mitch.. with Fields arm talent is obvious at this point which is good. That said, just about everything needs work with him and that’s going to require good coaching and putting talent around him.


So, I’m not worried as of right now. If we’re halfway thru season 2 with this same evaluation then yeah, it might be time to start admitting some realities.

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And outside of the 2nd half "almost comeback" against the Steelers, Justin Fields has been pretty bad too. All he has accomplished is that he's not as bad as Zach Wilson.




It’s too early to worry about Fields imo. The fact that he’s shown flashes here and there is a good sign. With Mitch, we got consistent mediocrity and average play with really bad sprinkled in more often than not so it was hard to see it with Mitch.. with Fields arm talent is obvious at this point which is good. That said, just about everything needs work with him and that’s going to require good coaching and putting talent around him.


So, I’m not worried as of right now. If we’re halfway thru season 2 with this same evaluation then yeah, it might be time to start admitting some realities.


I'm excited about Fields too, he for sure has more arm talent than Mitch, but the numbers (and much of the eye test outside of the Pitt game) says he has been awful. I know patience is required for rookie QB's but I was hoping for a Kyler Murray type rookie season and he hasn't even been a fraction of that.


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I give him a pass because of Nagy.

If he still looks like this in week 8, 9, or 10 next season under a new coach? Bust.

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I really only worry about ball security with Fields. He likes to fumble. Of course he will have to get better with progressions and accuracy, but he has shown improvement with when to run and made some top notch throws.

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He understands what he's seeing a lot better than he did when he first took over. He's still to indecisive at times and his accuracy can be problematic on throws under 20 yards.

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It’s too early to worry about Fields imo. The fact that he’s shown flashes here and there is a good sign. With Mitch, we got consistent mediocrity and average play with really bad sprinkled in more often than not so it was hard to see it with Mitch.. with Fields arm talent is obvious at this point which is good. That said, just about everything needs work with him and that’s going to require good coaching and putting talent around him.

I think Fields will ultimately surpass (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky but they are basically having the same rookie seasons so far.

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It’s too early to worry about Fields imo. The fact that he’s shown flashes here and there is a good sign. With Mitch, we got consistent mediocrity and average play with really bad sprinkled in more often than not so it was hard to see it with Mitch.. with Fields arm talent is obvious at this point which is good. That said, just about everything needs work with him and that’s going to require good coaching and putting talent around him.

I think Fields will ultimately surpass (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky but they are basically having the same rookie seasons so far.


The stats says (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky was far better. Especially when it comes to protecting the ball.

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Wasnt it pretty much accepted this team was destined for 7-10 or 8-9? Nobody had these chumps in the playoffs and everybody agreed they needed to clean house last year..no surprises this season, no expctations unmet.

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