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Thermostat question for the bored (or Darko specifically, but I don’t want to ask for too much free advice so this is me pretending I’m not doing that)…

I have two systems, but the thermostats are close enough together that it seems the one is impacting the other. Specifically, the unit that services the upstairs of my house seems to hit temperature without adequately heating most of the rooms. Not a huge deal in the summer, but not enjoyable when temps hit 0.

Anybody ever dealt with that? I’m wondering if relocating the thermostat would be a solution, or if that’d create some other problem I’m not expecting (i.e., heat running non-stop). Or if there’s some other less involved way to solve this.

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Thermostat question for the bored (or Darko specifically, but I don’t want to ask for too much free advice so this is me pretending I’m not doing that)…

I have two systems, but the thermostats are close enough together that it seems the one is impacting the other. Specifically, the unit that services the upstairs of my house seems to hit temperature without adequately heating most of the rooms. Not a huge deal in the summer, but not enjoyable when temps hit 0.

Anybody ever dealt with that? I’m wondering if relocating the thermostat would be a solution, or if that’d create some other problem I’m not expecting (i.e., heat running non-stop). Or if there’s some other less involved way to solve this.


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Moving a thermostat isn't as easy as it sounds. You have to pull new wire to the new location.
That being said, there's thermostats out there with a remote sensor such as the ecobee. Should you get one of those, you can out the sensor wherever you like as it's rf controlled and not hard wired, and run off that instead of the thermostat itself.

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Moving a thermostat isn't as easy as it sounds. You have to pull new wire to the new location.
That being said, there's thermostats out there with a remote sensor such as the ecobee. Should you get one of those, you can out the sensor wherever you like as it's rf controlled and not hard wired, and run off that instead of the thermostat itself.

I expected an expense to move it and there’s a reasonably accessible path, so not as worried there, but is the remote sensor option as good as a normal hardwired stat?

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Thermostat question for the bored (or Darko specifically, but I don’t want to ask for too much free advice so this is me pretending I’m not doing that)…

I have two systems, but the thermostats are close enough together that it seems the one is impacting the other. Specifically, the unit that services the upstairs of my house seems to hit temperature without adequately heating most of the rooms. Not a huge deal in the summer, but not enjoyable when temps hit 0.

Anybody ever dealt with that? I’m wondering if relocating the thermostat would be a solution, or if that’d create some other problem I’m not expecting (i.e., heat running non-stop). Or if there’s some other less involved way to solve this.

Are they two different units or is it a shared unit with two zones? We have a two zone system and the upstairs often struggles in warm/cold weather when the bottom unit is being heated/cooled as the power of the air coming out of the vents is significantly lower which makes sense given you are doubling the number of vents and the "closer" ones are getting more of it.

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Moving a thermostat isn't as easy as it sounds. You have to pull new wire to the new location.
That being said, there's thermostats out there with a remote sensor such as the ecobee. Should you get one of those, you can out the sensor wherever you like as it's rf controlled and not hard wired, and run off that instead of the thermostat itself.

I expected an expense to move it and there’s a reasonably accessible path, so not as worried there, but is the remote sensor option as good as a normal hardwired stat?

Yes. Better IMHO.

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This Ends in Antioch wrote:
Thermostat question for the bored (or Darko specifically, but I don’t want to ask for too much free advice so this is me pretending I’m not doing that)…

I have two systems, but the thermostats are close enough together that it seems the one is impacting the other. Specifically, the unit that services the upstairs of my house seems to hit temperature without adequately heating most of the rooms. Not a huge deal in the summer, but not enjoyable when temps hit 0.

Anybody ever dealt with that? I’m wondering if relocating the thermostat would be a solution, or if that’d create some other problem I’m not expecting (i.e., heat running non-stop). Or if there’s some other less involved way to solve this.

Are they two different units or is it a shared unit with two zones? We have a two zone system and the upstairs often struggles in warm/cold weather when the bottom unit is being heated/cooled as the power of the air coming out of the vents is significantly lower which makes sense given you are doubling the number of vents and the "closer" ones are getting more of it.

Two systems. One services what amounts to a very large room. The other services up & down for a traditional two story house. Stats are about 15 feet away from one another with nothing but an open entryway between them.

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Moving a thermostat isn't as easy as it sounds. You have to pull new wire to the new location.
That being said, there's thermostats out there with a remote sensor such as the ecobee. Should you get one of those, you can out the sensor wherever you like as it's rf controlled and not hard wired, and run off that instead of the thermostat itself.

I expected an expense to move it and there’s a reasonably accessible path, so not as worried there, but is the remote sensor option as good as a normal hardwired stat?

Yes. Better IMHO.

Any you’d recommend over others? Every seen this guy: https://www.honeywellhome.com/us/en/pro ... wfw2001-u/

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This Ends in Antioch wrote:
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This Ends in Antioch wrote:
Thermostat question for the bored (or Darko specifically, but I don’t want to ask for too much free advice so this is me pretending I’m not doing that)…

I have two systems, but the thermostats are close enough together that it seems the one is impacting the other. Specifically, the unit that services the upstairs of my house seems to hit temperature without adequately heating most of the rooms. Not a huge deal in the summer, but not enjoyable when temps hit 0.

Anybody ever dealt with that? I’m wondering if relocating the thermostat would be a solution, or if that’d create some other problem I’m not expecting (i.e., heat running non-stop). Or if there’s some other less involved way to solve this.

Are they two different units or is it a shared unit with two zones? We have a two zone system and the upstairs often struggles in warm/cold weather when the bottom unit is being heated/cooled as the power of the air coming out of the vents is significantly lower which makes sense given you are doubling the number of vents and the "closer" ones are getting more of it.

Two systems. One services what amounts to a very large room. The other services up & down for a traditional two story house. Stats are about 15 feet away from one another with nothing but an open entryway between them.
I think that surprisingly Darkside will be proven to be right about the smart thermostat with the sensors in other rooms. It will take a lot of tweaking though to get the balance correct. It sounds like the room with the thermostat that heats/cools the rest of the house will always be very hot in order to keep the other rooms clear. I would almost think you would have to seal off some of the vents in the room with the thermostat for it to work as you want.

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Yeah I’m worried about turning the basement and/or first floor into an oven.

I should prob just follow Cashman’s advice.

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This Ends in Antioch wrote:
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Moving a thermostat isn't as easy as it sounds. You have to pull new wire to the new location.
That being said, there's thermostats out there with a remote sensor such as the ecobee. Should you get one of those, you can out the sensor wherever you like as it's rf controlled and not hard wired, and run off that instead of the thermostat itself.

I expected an expense to move it and there’s a reasonably accessible path, so not as worried there, but is the remote sensor option as good as a normal hardwired stat?

Yes. Better IMHO.

Any you’d recommend over others? Every seen this guy: https://www.honeywellhome.com/us/en/pro ... wfw2001-u/

I recommend the ecobee because I have one and it solved a very similar problem in my house. I don't know that T9, never used it. The remote sensor in our cases is useless if you cannot have the system ignore the main thermostat which the ecobee allows you to do. In essence, the only thing controlling the temp at my house is a remote sensor. The thermostat itself is out of the equation.

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Darkside wrote:
This Ends in Antioch wrote:
Darkside wrote:
This Ends in Antioch wrote:
Darkside wrote:
Moving a thermostat isn't as easy as it sounds. You have to pull new wire to the new location.
That being said, there's thermostats out there with a remote sensor such as the ecobee. Should you get one of those, you can out the sensor wherever you like as it's rf controlled and not hard wired, and run off that instead of the thermostat itself.

I expected an expense to move it and there’s a reasonably accessible path, so not as worried there, but is the remote sensor option as good as a normal hardwired stat?

Yes. Better IMHO.

Any you’d recommend over others? Every seen this guy: https://www.honeywellhome.com/us/en/pro ... wfw2001-u/

I recommend the ecobee because I have one and it solved a very similar problem in my house. I don't know that T9, never used it. The remote sensor in our cases is useless if you cannot have the system ignore the main thermostat which the ecobee allows you to do. In essence, the only thing controlling the temp at my house is a remote sensor. The thermostat itself is out of the equation.

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This Ends in Antioch wrote:
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This Ends in Antioch wrote:
Thermostat question for the bored (or Darko specifically, but I don’t want to ask for too much free advice so this is me pretending I’m not doing that)…

I have two systems, but the thermostats are close enough together that it seems the one is impacting the other. Specifically, the unit that services the upstairs of my house seems to hit temperature without adequately heating most of the rooms. Not a huge deal in the summer, but not enjoyable when temps hit 0.

Anybody ever dealt with that? I’m wondering if relocating the thermostat would be a solution, or if that’d create some other problem I’m not expecting (i.e., heat running non-stop). Or if there’s some other less involved way to solve this.

Are they two different units or is it a shared unit with two zones? We have a two zone system and the upstairs often struggles in warm/cold weather when the bottom unit is being heated/cooled as the power of the air coming out of the vents is significantly lower which makes sense given you are doubling the number of vents and the "closer" ones are getting more of it.

Two systems. One services what amounts to a very large room. The other services up & down for a traditional two story house. Stats are about 15 feet away from one another with nothing but an open entryway between them.

If you have floor vents upstairs you can buy powered vent covers which automatically draw heated (or cooled) air into the room. They are an easy way to help balance temps between floors.

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Darkside wrote:
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Darkside wrote:
This Ends in Antioch wrote:
Darkside wrote:
Moving a thermostat isn't as easy as it sounds. You have to pull new wire to the new location.
That being said, there's thermostats out there with a remote sensor such as the ecobee. Should you get one of those, you can out the sensor wherever you like as it's rf controlled and not hard wired, and run off that instead of the thermostat itself.

I expected an expense to move it and there’s a reasonably accessible path, so not as worried there, but is the remote sensor option as good as a normal hardwired stat?

Yes. Better IMHO.

Any you’d recommend over others? Every seen this guy: https://www.honeywellhome.com/us/en/pro ... wfw2001-u/

I recommend the ecobee because I have one and it solved a very similar problem in my house. I don't know that T9, never used it. The remote sensor in our cases is useless if you cannot have the system ignore the main thermostat which the ecobee allows you to do. In essence, the only thing controlling the temp at my house is a remote sensor. The thermostat itself is out of the equation.

We have an Ecobee and have had a lot of luck with it.

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Brick wrote:
This Ends in Antioch wrote:
Thermostat question for the bored (or Darko specifically, but I don’t want to ask for too much free advice so this is me pretending I’m not doing that)…

I have two systems, but the thermostats are close enough together that it seems the one is impacting the other. Specifically, the unit that services the upstairs of my house seems to hit temperature without adequately heating most of the rooms. Not a huge deal in the summer, but not enjoyable when temps hit 0.

Anybody ever dealt with that? I’m wondering if relocating the thermostat would be a solution, or if that’d create some other problem I’m not expecting (i.e., heat running non-stop). Or if there’s some other less involved way to solve this.

Are they two different units or is it a shared unit with two zones? We have a two zone system and the upstairs often struggles in warm/cold weather when the bottom unit is being heated/cooled as the power of the air coming out of the vents is significantly lower which makes sense given you are doubling the number of vents and the "closer" ones are getting more of it.

Two systems. One services what amounts to a very large room. The other services up & down for a traditional two story house. Stats are about 15 feet away from one another with nothing but an open entryway between them.

If you have floor vents upstairs you can buy powered vent covers which automatically draw heated (or cooled) air into the room. They are an easy way to help balance temps between floors.


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Depending on how old the system is, there may be manual tempering dampers to force more cool air upstairs in the summer, mine are buried above a drop ceiling in a basement bedroom, and never get adjusted.

I often found the complaining offspring had moved their furniture around and blocked either the return vent or the supply grating; with a closed door, they were occupying a stagnant air space.


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All I know is what to do when your current one stops working- kick her. :wink:

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A couple years ago my wife proclaimed we needed a new dishwasher because dishes were coming out dirty. Instead I took out the spinning thing (a you tube video showed how) and cleaned out all the gunk and broken glass. Doing that saved the trouble and expense of buying a new one. Even now it CLEANS.JUST.FINE.

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A couple years ago my wife proclaimed we needed a new dishwasher because dishes were coming out dirty. Instead I took out the spinning thing (a you tube video showed how) and cleaned out all the gunk and broken glass. Doing that saved the trouble and expense of buying a new one. Even now it CLEANS.JUST.FINE.

YouTube really is a fantastic resource for home repairs - particularly appliances. Our gas oven wasn’t heating properly and I was thinking we’d need to replace it. After doing some research (YouTube) it became apparent that the igniter need to be replaced. Fortunately we had a parts store nearby and 2 hours later we were back in business.

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A couple years ago my wife proclaimed we needed a new dishwasher because dishes were coming out dirty. Instead I took out the spinning thing (a you tube video showed how) and cleaned out all the gunk and broken glass. Doing that saved the trouble and expense of buying a new one. Even now it CLEANS.JUST.FINE.

If you have a little knowledge and skill there is a service manual inside the covers of the unit. You can run a diagnostics on most appliances and the machine itself will tell you what’s wrong.

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A couple years ago my wife proclaimed we needed a new dishwasher because dishes were coming out dirty. Instead I took out the spinning thing (a you tube video showed how) and cleaned out all the gunk and broken glass. Doing that saved the trouble and expense of buying a new one. Even now it CLEANS.JUST.FINE.

YouTube really is a fantastic resource for home repairs - particularly appliances. Our gas oven wasn’t heating properly and I was thinking we’d need to replace it. After doing some research (YouTube) it became apparent that the igniter need to be replaced. Fortunately we had a parts store nearby and 2 hours later we were back in business.


Yep we did the same with our oven. $40 part vs. expensive repair.

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A couple years ago my wife proclaimed we needed a new dishwasher because dishes were coming out dirty. Instead I took out the spinning thing (a you tube video showed how) and cleaned out all the gunk and broken glass. Doing that saved the trouble and expense of buying a new one. Even now it CLEANS.JUST.FINE.

YouTube really is a fantastic resource for home repairs - particularly appliances. Our gas oven wasn’t heating properly and I was thinking we’d need to replace it. After doing some research (YouTube) it became apparent that the igniter need to be replaced. Fortunately we had a parts store nearby and 2 hours later we were back in business.


Yep we did the same with our oven. $40 part vs. expensive repair.


Same here. Biggest issue which really is nothing is finding where to buy/order the $2 part

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Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:
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A couple years ago my wife proclaimed we needed a new dishwasher because dishes were coming out dirty. Instead I took out the spinning thing (a you tube video showed how) and cleaned out all the gunk and broken glass. Doing that saved the trouble and expense of buying a new one. Even now it CLEANS.JUST.FINE.

YouTube really is a fantastic resource for home repairs - particularly appliances. Our gas oven wasn’t heating properly and I was thinking we’d need to replace it. After doing some research (YouTube) it became apparent that the igniter need to be replaced. Fortunately we had a parts store nearby and 2 hours later we were back in business.


Yep we did the same with our oven. $40 part vs. expensive repair.


Same here. Biggest issue which really is nothing is finding where to buy/order the $2 part

Yep. I could have gotten it cheaper on Amazon but then the oven would have been out of commission until the part s showed up (through Christmas) and you have to be certain that the part you order is a suitable replacement. It was easier in this case just to bite the bullet and get the factory part from a retailer who could look directly at what I had and assure me it was correct.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 12:45 pm 
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Huh, I'll try that first. I'm not very handy so I'll probably break it for good.

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