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Post subject: Re: I'm Starting to Doubt Fields

Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2021 2:24 pm

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qb from a college that can't produce nfl qbs picked by a team that can't produce nfl qb's. This is so exciting.

april 29th 2021...and I got raked over the coals

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Post subject: Re: I'm Starting to Doubt Fields

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Hussra wrote:

Good time for Harbaugh to move on from Michigan, he's achieved all he's going to achieve there, beating Ohio State one time.

He’s a better coach at the NFL level than he is at the College level.

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Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2021 3:10 pm

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good dolphin wrote:

Toub does it for me.

He has always been innovative as an STC. He takes players and coaches them up into pro bowl level ST players. He's a veteran who has served under two great coaches (one offensive minded and one defensive). His time in the league should provide him with a wealth of contacts for coordinators. I think he'd be really good as a chairman type of HC, which is ultimately what that position is.

I third that motion. He's my pick.

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Post subject: Re: I'm Starting to Doubt Fields

Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2021 3:13 pm

Nas wrote:

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Toub has interviewed MANY times NFL team thought he was the guy he would have been a head coach by now. I think there's a reason he hasn't gotten a chance yet.

I think it's more about him not being an offensive or defensive coach. We want experts on one side of the ball.

I always thought it was because he's not big, flashy hire.

SNF is not talking about the job Dave Toub did earlier that day.

But, he is 60. I'm OK with that.

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Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2021 3:13 pm

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I'd be fine with Toub, but it won't matter if Ryan Pace is still General Managing this team.

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Post subject: Re: I'm Starting to Doubt Fields

Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2021 3:21 pm

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I'd rather have Harbaugh than Toub.

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Post subject: Re: I'm Starting to Doubt Fields

Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2021 3:29 pm

Tall Midget wrote:

I'd rather have Harbaugh than Toub.

Now I feel even better about my opinion.

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Post subject: Re: I'm Starting to Doubt Fields

Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2021 3:35 pm

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They are going to do the most Bears thing possible. Pace will be retained and the family will hire Jeff Fisher to be the new HC.

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Hawg Ass

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Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2021 3:43 pm

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Dan Patrick and Albert Breer were all over Ryan Day to the Bears this morning.

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Post subject: Re: I'm Starting to Doubt Fields

Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2021 3:59 pm

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Urlacher's missing neck wrote:

They are going to do the most Bears thing possible. Pace will be retained and the family will hire Jeff Fisher to be the new HC.

Pace will likely be retained...Jeff Fisher would be a very Bears-ey hire.
Then again....Leslie Frazier would as well.

Jim Harbough is not getting hired. Let's just put that one to rest already.

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Post subject: Re: I'm Starting to Doubt Fields

Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2021 4:09 pm

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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:

Tall Midget wrote:

I'd rather have Harbaugh than Toub.

Now I feel even better about my opinion.

I guess you have a fetish for being wrong.

What exactly is it that you like so much about Toub?

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IkeSouth

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Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2021 4:12 pm

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Did mark tressman leave his toolbox of concepts somewhere at halas hall? Maybe we can let nagy borrow some ideas? Why doesnt anyone think of these things, you gotta utilize the assets you accure over time or they lose value due to natural inflation

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Post subject: Re: I'm Starting to Doubt Fields

Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2021 4:15 pm

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Hawg Ass wrote:

Dan Patrick and Albert Breer were all over Ryan Day to the Bears this morning.

I would have to reevaluate my Sundays if he gets hired.

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Post subject: Re: I'm Starting to Doubt Fields

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Nas wrote:

Hawg Ass wrote:

Dan Patrick and Albert Breer were all over Ryan Day to the Bears this morning.

I would have to reevaluate my Sundays if he gets hired.

Has La Canfora ever gotten a story right?

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Post subject: Re: I'm Starting to Doubt Fields

Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2021 4:19 pm

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Nas wrote:

Hawg Ass wrote:

Dan Patrick and Albert Breer were all over Ryan Day to the Bears this morning.

I would have to reevaluate my Sundays if he gets hired.

Why? Name me one - just one - time an ex. OSU coach made the jump to the NFL and didn’t immediately succeed.

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Post subject: Re: I'm Starting to Doubt Fields

Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2021 4:21 pm

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This Ends in Antioch wrote:

Nas wrote:

Hawg Ass wrote:

Dan Patrick and Albert Breer were all over Ryan Day to the Bears this morning.

I would have to reevaluate my Sundays if he gets hired.

Why? Name me one - just one - time an ex. OSU coach made the jump to the NFL and didn’t immediately succeed.

Or any successful college head coach. Who has made a viable transition in the past 20 years? Harbaugh and Carroll are all I can think of. And Carroll was a returning NFL guy who already had some modicum of success as an NFL head man.

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Post subject: Re: I'm Starting to Doubt Fields

Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2021 4:27 pm

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This Ends in Antioch wrote:

Nas wrote:

Hawg Ass wrote:

Dan Patrick and Albert Breer were all over Ryan Day to the Bears this morning.

I would have to reevaluate my Sundays if he gets hired.

Why? Name me one - just one - time an ex. OSU coach made the jump to the NFL and didn’t immediately succeed.

It is kind of a pathetic list. Next up may be Kingsbury, and he’s marginal at this point and probably wouldn’t be considered a ‘successful’ college coach.

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Post subject: Re: I'm Starting to Doubt Fields

Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2021 4:29 pm

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This Ends in Antioch wrote:

One Post wrote:

This Ends in Antioch wrote:

Nas wrote:

Hawg Ass wrote:

Dan Patrick and Albert Breer were all over Ryan Day to the Bears this morning.

I would have to reevaluate my Sundays if he gets hired.

Why? Name me one - just one - time an ex. OSU coach made the jump to the NFL and didn’t immediately succeed.

It is kind of a pathetic list. Next up may be Kingsbury, and he’s marginal at this point and probably wouldn’t be considered a ‘successful’ college coach.

Yeah, he'll be an interesting follow in that the Cardinals were terrible in 2019, average in 2020, and are dominant this year.

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Post subject: Re: I'm Starting to Doubt Fields

Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2021 5:17 pm

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The Bears are due to make a 'in the Bears family' hire. Why not hire Ron Rivera and give him a say in personnel. He could hardly be worse than Pace and Sundays would be a significant upgrade.

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Post subject: Re: I'm Starting to Doubt Fields

Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2021 5:52 pm

Tall Midget wrote:

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:

Tall Midget wrote:

I'd rather have Harbaugh than Toub.

Now I feel even better about my opinion.

I guess you have a fetish for being wrong.

What exactly is it that you like so much about Toub?

I echo gd's thoughts on ST coaches. The head coach is not a coordinator. He's a manager of coaches and personnel and strategy.

Toub, I think it's fair to say, has been an exceptional ST coach in taking advantage of rules and strategy. ST coaches also have to manage all personnel. I think it is a mini-head coach position and he has excelled and been through a few very successful organizations.

I think he is a viable candidate and would relish the opportunity. He's like Bruce Arians - give an old lifer an opportunity.

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Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2021 7:49 pm

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Nas wrote:

Frank Coztansa wrote:

Toub has interviewed MANY times NFL team thought he was the guy he would have been a head coach by now. I think there's a reason he hasn't gotten a chance yet.

I think it's more about him not being an offensive or defensive coach. We want experts on one side of the ball.

Could Toub really be worse than Nagy or the "offensive experts" that coached while he was the ST guy here?

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Frank Coztansa wrote:

Nas wrote:

Frank Coztansa wrote:

Toub has interviewed MANY times NFL team thought he was the guy he would have been a head coach by now. I think there's a reason he hasn't gotten a chance yet.

I think it's more about him not being an offensive or defensive coach. We want experts on one side of the ball.

Could Toub really be worse than Nagy or the "offensive experts" that coached while he was the ST guy here?

I think he's a really good coach right now and would be a really good head coach.

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Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2021 8:04 pm

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Toub had to have a handle on both the offense and the defense. Special teams is a major part of both. He'd be a very solid head coach and could manage both offensive and defensive coordinators since he's always been well schooled in both schemes.

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Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2021 8:08 pm

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I'm good with Toub.

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August Schell wrote:

The Bears are due to make a 'in the Bears family' hire. Why not hire Ron Rivera and give him a say in personnel. He could hardly be worse than Pace and Sundays would be a significant upgrade.

His employment in Washington might be a complication.

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Hub would be unlistenable if his close friend Rivera got the job.

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GoldenJet wrote:

It is pretty well accepted that special teams is a pipeline for future head coaches.

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Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2021 11:44 pm