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 Post subject: Re: 2021 off-season
PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2022 1:44 pm 
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Is there a guy on that staff you’d feel good about running out there in a must win?


After the playoff loss, NO!

I’d tend to agree unless Kopech has it together. The Astros destroyed WS starting pitching when it mattered most and the bats were mostly quiet.

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This Ends in Antioch wrote:
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Is there a guy on that staff you’d feel good about running out there in a must win?


After the playoff loss, NO!

I’d tend to agree unless Kopech has it together. The Astros destroyed WS starting pitching when it mattered most and the bats were mostly quiet.


I'm not ready to dismiss out of hand any of the top 4. Giolito and Lynn are very good pitchers. I felt like the team coasted into the playoffs, and it cost them. Going to Houston was a terrible situation. Not going to use that example to say I will not trust the starters ever again in the playoffs.

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I was high on Kopech until last season. He had a few outings where he kinda blew up because he didn't like certain calls. Like, you can't fall apart because of that.


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Cashman wrote:
I was high on Kopech until last season. He had a few outings where he kinda blew up because he didn't like certain calls. Like, you can't fall apart because of that.



You are right.

He needs to show more maturity this year

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I was high on Kopech until last season. He had a few outings where he kinda blew up because he didn't like certain calls. Like, you can't fall apart because of that.



You are right.

He needs to show more maturity this year

He showed growth last year. Look at where he was when he first showed up. He was a cocky kid who seemed to really care about his physical looks on the mound, and who wanted to throw the ball through a brick wall. That persona changed greatly last year.


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I was high on Kopech until last season. He had a few outings where he kinda blew up because he didn't like certain calls. Like, you can't fall apart because of that.



You are right.

He needs to show more maturity this year

He showed growth last year. Look at where he was when he first showed up. He was a cocky kid who seemed to really care about his physical looks on the mound, and who wanted to throw the ball through a brick wall. That persona changed greatly last year.


Agreed.

But now he has to learn to pitch through the missed call or the extra out the Sox defense is known for.

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This Ends in Antioch wrote:
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Is there a guy on that staff you’d feel good about running out there in a must win?


After the playoff loss, NO!

I’d tend to agree unless Kopech has it together. The Astros destroyed WS starting pitching when it mattered most and the bats were mostly quiet.


If starters are going to go through the lineup twice, you really no longer need a stud starter to guarantee post season success. They need their lineup to come through in the post season, if it doesn't, their starting pitching really isn't going to matter.


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Is there a guy on that staff you’d feel good about running out there in a must win?


After the playoff loss, NO!

I’d tend to agree unless Kopech has it together. The Astros destroyed WS starting pitching when it mattered most and the bats were mostly quiet.


If starters are going to go through the lineup twice, you really no longer need a stud starter to guarantee post season success. They need their lineup to come through in the post season, if it doesn't, their starting pitching really isn't going to matter.

A good bullpen doesn't guarantee playoff success, but a bad one guarantees a loss. So yeah, the 1-3 starters are important, but the lineup and the bullpen are more important in the playoffs.


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 Post subject: Re: 2021 off-season
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Theyll bumslay their way to a division title and be exposed (again) when they have to play good teams in the playoffs.

This is where I'm at.....I wish I had WFR's optimism, but I can't find it.
I don't think the result would have been any different last year had the opponent been Tampa or Boston.

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Where is Jake Burger playing to be an improved player?

I hope Cease makes a bigger jump than Kopech.


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Where is Jake Burger playing to be an improved player?

I hope Cease makes a bigger jump than Kopech.

Looks like 3B to start the season with Moncada out on 10 day list.

Under normal circumstances he's last on the 2B depth chart :lol:

He's just another of several DH's stacked on the roster. I like his bat, but FFS like Eloy, you put him on the field and he's an injury waiting to happen.

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Will he have more strikeouts than days on the DL this year?

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Will he have more strikeouts than days on the DL this year?



Same question goes for Giolito and Lynn.


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 Post subject: Re: 2021 off-season
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looks like the SF restaurants are treating him well

He was in the best shape of his career last year.

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looks like the SF restaurants are treating him well

He was in the best shape of his career last year.

Are we supposed to root against him now? Guys leave and the Sox pretty much held the door open. I have no issues with Rodon. In fact I hope he does well.

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 Post subject: Re: 2021 off-season
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neither do I

he got heavy. I think his conditioning was always a problem. It wasn't during his breakout season.

Eloy looks a little chunkier this season as well.

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 Post subject: Re: 2021 off-season
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looks like the SF restaurants are treating him well

He was in the best shape of his career last year.

Are we supposed to root against him now? Guys leave and the Sox pretty much held the door open. I have no issues with Rodon. In fact I hope he does well.


I hope he does well too.

Let's re-visit this in August and see how he is doing then.

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looks like the SF restaurants are treating him well

He was in the best shape of his career last year.

Are we supposed to root against him now? Guys leave and the Sox pretty much held the door open. I have no issues with Rodon. In fact I hope he does well.


I hope he does well too.

Let's re-visit this in August and see how he is doing then.


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Be revisionist all you want on Rodon. It was risky unless at a discount. He wasn’t and shouldn’t have taken a discount.

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Be revisionist all you want on Rodon. It was risky unless at a discount. He wasn’t and shouldn’t have taken a discount.


He is what he is. Het got into shape when his career was on the ropes. He always had dominant stretches, at the end of the day, he went like 120ip last year. Would I of matched the 2yr deal, yes. I still don't know why they didn't QO him, unless they had an agreement.


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Be revisionist all you want on Rodon. It was risky unless at a discount. He wasn’t and shouldn’t have taken a discount.


He is what he is. Het got into shape when his career was on the ropes. He always had dominant stretches, at the end of the day, he went like 120ip last year. Would I of matched the 2yr deal, yes. I still don't know why they didn't QO him, unless they had an agreement.

He's going to pitch in pain for 2 years and hang it up. My guess he told the Giants this and that's why he got the contract. Now we'll see how much pain that rotting(not an opinion, it is a fact) shoulder can actually endure?


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He has (d) the best stuff on the staff . The best shape of his life stuff is crap too. He got hurt being on the best shape of his life ( just like Giolito ) and hurt not being in the best shape of his life . That said cant extend him, was wise to let him be someone else's part-time player.

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What did they do with the savings of not signing him?


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He has (d) the best stuff on the staff . The best shape of his life stuff is crap too.


OK. Maybe he just asked for a european cut to his uniform tailoring this year

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What did they do with the savings of not signing him?


Reinvested into long term infrastructure along with the Machado money

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Happy to see him get paid and I hope he does well, but he can’t be counted on when it matters.

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Great story. Rodon will still suck.

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Rodon is toast

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The Sox busted one of the most sure fire pitching prospects in recent memory, Rodon. Pure comedy in this thread

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