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Montgomery either doesn't see holes as well as Herbert does or he simply prefers to run to contact rather than running away from it.

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Montgomery either doesn't see holes as well as Herbert does or he simply prefers to run to contact rather than running away from it.


I think it's vision or simply a lack of trust in the offensive line.

If there is legitimate competition, I wouldn't be surprised if Herbert is #1 on our depth chart. He looks more like an Aaron Jones type of runner than Montgomery.

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I’m starting to get some ‘smartest guy in the room’ vibes from Poles and his regime.. I’ve been reading daily articles about players they’re scouting and they’re (almost) all from small schools.. not a good sign imo. Latest one I read about was an OL from Chattanooga-Tenn


Again, I’m in ‘wait and see’ mode for at least this season and probably next season.. but I’m still going to read the tea leaves so to speak.. and I personally am not a fan of drafting small school projects (at least early in the draft)

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I’m starting to get some ‘smartest guy in the room’ vibes from Poles and his regime.. I’ve been reading daily articles about players they’re scouting and they’re (almost) all from small schools.. not a good sign imo. Latest one I read about was an OL from Chattanooga-Tenn


Again, I’m in ‘wait and see’ mode for at least this season and probably next season.. but I’m still going to read the tea leaves so to speak.. and I personally am not a fan of drafting small school projects (at least early in the draft)


Cole Strange. Lot of teams are interested in him.


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I’m starting to get some ‘smartest guy in the room’ vibes from Poles and his regime.. I’ve been reading daily articles about players they’re scouting and they’re (almost) all from small schools.. not a good sign imo. Latest one I read about was an OL from Chattanooga-Tenn


Again, I’m in ‘wait and see’ mode for at least this season and probably next season.. but I’m still going to read the tea leaves so to speak.. and I personally am not a fan of drafting small school projects (at least early in the draft)


Cole Strange. Lot of teams are interested in him.


PFF has him ranked as the 4th best guard and 85th best player overall in the 2022 draft.

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Peoria Matt wrote:
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I’m starting to get some ‘smartest guy in the room’ vibes from Poles and his regime.. I’ve been reading daily articles about players they’re scouting and they’re (almost) all from small schools.. not a good sign imo. Latest one I read about was an OL from Chattanooga-Tenn


Again, I’m in ‘wait and see’ mode for at least this season and probably next season.. but I’m still going to read the tea leaves so to speak.. and I personally am not a fan of drafting small school projects (at least early in the draft)


Cole Strange. Lot of teams are interested in him.




He’s the latest example, not the only one. Doesn’t change my opinion on small school guys. Unless we’re talking about an exceptional player (like Randy Moss all those years ago).. I’m mostly against picking them.. at least for the first few rounds of the draft.


Also, it’s one thing to look into a guy that’s getting a lot of attention -but I’ve read about at least 7 or 8 players now the last couple weeks from small schools the Bears are looking at from various positions. Some of it could be looking ahead to undrafted FA types so they can hit the ground running (which is fine).. I’m hoping it’s not for their 1st few picks tho. We’ll see.

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 Post subject: Re: Off-season Wish List
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I’d add that this crap is indicative of the ‘smartest guy in the room’ type, which is not something I’d like to see again from a GM here. We’ve seen far too much of that already.

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It is more than likely potential UDFA players


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And I'm sure they already have their 39 and 48 list of guys. I wouldn't worry about small school guys at those picks.


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Highly likely than numerous UDFA's not only fill roster spots, but will get tons of playing time due to this inescapable equation: roster needs>amount of draft capital.


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I don't think we know nearly enough about Poles to say how he is doing yet. Gotta see how the roster shapes up this year and how his plan falls in to shape.

And in some ways every GM that exists needs to think they are the smartest man in the room.

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I’m starting to get some ‘smartest guy in the room’ vibes from Poles and his regime.. I’ve been reading daily articles about players they’re scouting and they’re (almost) all from small schools.. not a good sign imo. Latest one I read about was an OL from Chattanooga-Tenn


Again, I’m in ‘wait and see’ mode for at least this season and probably next season.. but I’m still going to read the tea leaves so to speak.. and I personally am not a fan of drafting small school projects (at least early in the draft)

Every GM should be lying as much as they can right now.

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And I'm sure they already have their 39 and 48 list of guys. I wouldn't worry about small school guys at those picks.


Christian Watson, WR, North Dakota is undoubtedly on that list

people are going to be pissed with this draft because the best player available at 39 is going to be on the defensive side.

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And I'm sure they already have their 39 and 48 list of guys. I wouldn't worry about small school guys at those picks.


Christian Watson, WR, North Dakota is undoubtedly on that list

people are going to be pissed with this draft because the best player available at 39 is going to be on the defensive side.

i think you are exactly right. I have played around with a couple different draft simulators and every time the top 10-15 guys available at that pick are on defense.

So you are either going to reach for a offensive guy or take a DT, CB, or S.

I really hope they trade down

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Another tight end.

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#Bears announce they have signed veteran TE James O'Shaughnessy to a 1-year contract.

He joins a tight end room with Cole Kmet, Ryan Griffin & Jesper Horsted.

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 Post subject: Re: Off-season Wish List
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And I'm sure they already have their 39 and 48 list of guys. I wouldn't worry about small school guys at those picks.


Christian Watson, WR, North Dakota is undoubtedly on that list

people are going to be pissed with this draft because the best player available at 39 is going to be on the defensive side.

i think you are exactly right. I have played around with a couple different draft simulators and every time the top 10-15 guys available at that pick are on defense.

So you are either going to reach for a offensive guy or take a DT, CB, or S.

I really hope they trade down


It's been apparent for a long time that the vaunted BPA at 39 would be a defensive guy. That's part of what has made Poles' moves in free agency rather curious. The Bears may not pick an offensive player until the third round.

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And I'm sure they already have their 39 and 48 list of guys. I wouldn't worry about small school guys at those picks.


Christian Watson, WR, North Dakota is undoubtedly on that list

people are going to be pissed with this draft because the best player available at 39 is going to be on the defensive side.


I think Watson may be gone by then. Even if he isn't, I agree with your defensive player pick. There's going to be a 1st round D guy that falls to the 2nd.


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I am hoping for a trade down also. They need picks.


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Tall Midget wrote:
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And I'm sure they already have their 39 and 48 list of guys. I wouldn't worry about small school guys at those picks.


Christian Watson, WR, North Dakota is undoubtedly on that list

people are going to be pissed with this draft because the best player available at 39 is going to be on the defensive side.

i think you are exactly right. I have played around with a couple different draft simulators and every time the top 10-15 guys available at that pick are on defense.

So you are either going to reach for a offensive guy or take a DT, CB, or S.

I really hope they trade down


It's been apparent for a long time that the vaunted BPA at 39 would be a defensive guy. That's part of what has made Poles' moves in free agency rather curious. The Bears may not pick an offensive player until the third round.

If they trade down and get an extra pick(s) then I am fine with them taking a defensive guy with one of their picks in the 2nd round. But one of those top 2 picks has to be on offense.

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They are tanking for the 2023 draft..I mean that's pretty clear...


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RFDC wrote:
Tall Midget wrote:
RFDC wrote:
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And I'm sure they already have their 39 and 48 list of guys. I wouldn't worry about small school guys at those picks.


Christian Watson, WR, North Dakota is undoubtedly on that list

people are going to be pissed with this draft because the best player available at 39 is going to be on the defensive side.

i think you are exactly right. I have played around with a couple different draft simulators and every time the top 10-15 guys available at that pick are on defense.

So you are either going to reach for a offensive guy or take a DT, CB, or S.

I really hope they trade down


It's been apparent for a long time that the vaunted BPA at 39 would be a defensive guy. That's part of what has made Poles' moves in free agency rather curious. The Bears may not pick an offensive player until the third round.

If they trade down and get an extra pick(s) then I am fine with them taking a defensive guy with one of their picks in the 2nd round. But one of those top 2 picks has to be on offense.



The bpa may be a pass rusher and its supposed to be a good draft for them. If so, what about trading quinn for a 2+, taking the bpa pass rusher and then getting offense with the two other 2s?

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good dolphin wrote:
RFDC wrote:
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RFDC wrote:
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And I'm sure they already have their 39 and 48 list of guys. I wouldn't worry about small school guys at those picks.


Christian Watson, WR, North Dakota is undoubtedly on that list

people are going to be pissed with this draft because the best player available at 39 is going to be on the defensive side.

i think you are exactly right. I have played around with a couple different draft simulators and every time the top 10-15 guys available at that pick are on defense.

So you are either going to reach for a offensive guy or take a DT, CB, or S.

I really hope they trade down


It's been apparent for a long time that the vaunted BPA at 39 would be a defensive guy. That's part of what has made Poles' moves in free agency rather curious. The Bears may not pick an offensive player until the third round.

If they trade down and get an extra pick(s) then I am fine with them taking a defensive guy with one of their picks in the 2nd round. But one of those top 2 picks has to be on offense.



The bpa may be a pass rusher and its supposed to be a good draft for them. If so, what about trading quinn for a 2+, taking the bpa pass rusher and then getting offense with the two other 2s?


I think that is a great plan. Trading Quinn should definitely be a consideration at this point.

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phew, we signed a mediocre TE... we'v been down from the Ryan Pace standard of 10-11 of these commodities, glad to see Poles values them too



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I'll never understand why guys get riled up about obvious camp signings. They have an off season workout beginning today.

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I'll never understand why guys get riled up about obvious camp signings. They have an off season workout beginning today.


I'm still waiting for all those big time Wide Receivers that you said would be available in droves come draft time...


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I'll never understand why guys get riled up about obvious camp signings. They have an off season workout beginning today.


I'm still waiting for all those big time Wide Receivers that you said would be available in droves come draft time...


um, you'll have to wait about 9 more days

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I am hoping for a trade down also. They need picks.


If you try to apply logic to the incredibly illogical process known as the NFL draft it would seem that the more picks (choices) you have would improve your odds of finding more players that will contribute by simply providing more chances for success. Hard to know if any player will be a success, guys with incredible athleticism do no always find success in the NFL, so it seems trading up for an unknown player makes very little sense, and trading down for more chances makes perfect sense. It does seem that the process is lacking in determining, especially at the QB level, a players ability to quickly recognize what the opposition is doing and then instantly select the right play/action which will provide the best change of success on a given play.

Also seem to make sense to pick guys with proven success at their position from big time programs early in the draft, and take shots at guys from lower competition levels, or guys with physical traits that were either never successful, or guys slotted for position changes, with later picks.


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good dolphin wrote:
I'll never understand why guys get riled up about obvious camp signings. They have an off season workout beginning today.


I'm still waiting for all those big time Wide Receivers that you said would be available in droves come draft time...


um, you'll have to wait about 9 more days


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I'll never understand why guys get riled up about obvious camp signings. They have an off season workout beginning today.


i'm really riled up about it... and im definitely not making athrowback joke to the time ryan pace had 11 shitty tight ends on the roster...


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