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PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2022 7:35 pm 
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Even if these guys are not receiving due process it's still not apples to apples. Russia is at war with the US - not the best time to be subject to their "justice system."

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Big picture, she’s on our team. Call her dumb when she gets home, but she’s an American and that should mean something.

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This Ends in Antioch wrote:
Big picture, she’s on our team. Call her dumb when she gets home, but she’s an American and that should mean something.


Yeah get her home.

Then ABC will do their 2-hour special.


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This Ends in Antioch wrote:
Big picture, she’s on our team. Call her dumb when she gets home, but she’s an American and that should mean something.



Of course.

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This Ends in Antioch wrote:
Big picture, she’s on our team. Call her dumb when she gets home, but she’s an American and that should mean something.

How much of the cost does she/he cover?

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This Ends in Antioch wrote:
Big picture, she’s on our team. Call her dumb when she gets home, but she’s an American and that should mean something.

How much of the cost does she/he cover?

Yikes, cancel Hawg

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I hope Joe sends a card to all of those government agents, military personnel and anyone else involved with the capture of The Merchant Of Death. He can thank them for putting their lives on the line and dedicating countless hours to this mission so that some dumbfuck WNBA player can get bailed out for arrogantly breaking another country's law.

Should they get her home...yes. Should they trade TMOD for her.....not unless Stan Fuckign Bowman is leading the negotiations. Remove one of your useless sanctions in return for her. We get her back and lower gas prices.

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I hope Joe sends a card to all of those government agents, military personnel and anyone else involved with the capture of The Merchant Of Death. He can thank them for putting their lives on the line and dedicating countless hours to this mission so that some dumbfuck WNBA player can get bailed out for arrogantly breaking another country's law.

Should they get her home...yes. Should they trade TMOD for her.....not unless Stan Fuckign Bowman is leading the negotiations. Remove one of your useless sanctions in return for her. We get her back and lower gas prices.


I wrote it earlier. The exchange is BRITTNEY GRINER....and some former us military now working in international security who was only going to russia for a friends wedding and who they unfairly of spying but who was totally not spying.

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So will she stop going to Russia to make millions playing in empty stadiums for a Russian billionaire if she is released?

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So will she stop going to Russia to make millions playing in empty stadiums for a Russian billionaire if she is released?

She should. She could do that here.

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she protests anthems. i dont see why you cant do that in russian jail.

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After this is resolved, this is going to turn into a spin zone that this only happened because women aren’t paid enough.

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This Ends in Antioch wrote:
After this is resolved, this is going to turn into a spin zone that this only happened because women aren’t paid enough.


Julie is already beating that drum. She said because Griner only makes $220k in the WNBA, she has to supplement her income overseas, in contrast to male players who make enough not to have to do that. It's just a terrible argument.

Brick raises an interesting question regarding whether she would go back there after this ordeal. Maybe US taxpayers should make up her lost income!

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if we subsidized 1.3x every womans income to make up for the unfortunate situation of being born a woman, would women be allowed to bitch anymore if so IM ALL FOR IT

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Urlacher's missing neck wrote:
I hope Joe sends a card to all of those government agents, military personnel and anyone else involved with the capture of The Merchant Of Death. He can thank them for putting their lives on the line and dedicating countless hours to this mission so that some dumbfuck WNBA player can get bailed out for arrogantly breaking another country's law.

Should they get her home...yes. Should they trade TMOD for her.....not unless Stan Fuckign Bowman is leading the negotiations. Remove one of your useless sanctions in return for her. We get her back and lower gas prices.



Arrested in 2008, TMOD has been in custody for 14 years and was sentenced to 25...so not really a big deal to cut him loose at this point.


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Hussra wrote:
Urlacher's missing neck wrote:
I hope Joe sends a card to all of those government agents, military personnel and anyone else involved with the capture of The Merchant Of Death. He can thank them for putting their lives on the line and dedicating countless hours to this mission so that some dumbfuck WNBA player can get bailed out for arrogantly breaking another country's law.

Should they get her home...yes. Should they trade TMOD for her.....not unless Stan Fuckign Bowman is leading the negotiations. Remove one of your useless sanctions in return for her. We get her back and lower gas prices.



Arrested in 2008, TMOD has been in custody for 14 years and was sentenced to 25...so not really a big deal to cut him loose at this point.

Will The Merchant Of Death promise to stop killing people though? Will Britney Griner promise to stop vaping?

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Brick wrote:
Hussra wrote:
Urlacher's missing neck wrote:
I hope Joe sends a card to all of those government agents, military personnel and anyone else involved with the capture of The Merchant Of Death. He can thank them for putting their lives on the line and dedicating countless hours to this mission so that some dumbfuck WNBA player can get bailed out for arrogantly breaking another country's law.

Should they get her home...yes. Should they trade TMOD for her.....not unless Stan Fuckign Bowman is leading the negotiations. Remove one of your useless sanctions in return for her. We get her back and lower gas prices.



Arrested in 2008, TMOD has been in custody for 14 years and was sentenced to 25...so not really a big deal to cut him loose at this point.

Will The Merchant Of Death promise to stop killing people though? Will Britney Griner promise to stop vaping?

For those familiar with Nic Cage’s catalog, TMOD was the inspiration for Cage’s Yuri Urlov in his 2005 Oscar winner, Lord of War. That guy technically didn’t kill anybody*. Despite the title of the film, he was more logistics expert than cold blooded killer.

*except for that one time

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 Post subject: Re: LeBron
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Some of those people are definitely political prisoners being denied due process right here in the U.S.
FACT CHECK, Jorr continues to be wrong in stating this.

Being denied bail is not being denied due process.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Some of those people are definitely political prisoners being denied due process right here in the U.S.
FACT CHECK, Jorr continues to be wrong in stating this.

Being denied bail is not being denied due process.



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Frank Coztansa wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Some of those people are definitely political prisoners being denied due process right here in the U.S.
FACT CHECK, Jorr continues to be wrong in stating this.

Being denied bail is not being denied due process.



Tell that to the person denied bail. The only reason the Supreme Court was able to end-run the bill of rights and allow the Feds unfettered pre-trial detention is because Rehnquist came up with his bullshit impermissible punishment or permissible regulation dichotomy for pre-trial detention. If you're cooling your heels in a Federal lockup without bail, you're not being punished, you're being regulated...


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It sucks, but somebody that is denied bail has not been denied due process. You also have to be charged with a crime to be held without bail so if you're denied bail you are NOT being held without being charged. JORR has been wrong and/or lying about this for weeks now.

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Certainly under the current legal framework of legislation and supreme court rulings it comports with our present day warped due process. However, I'd say that when you're being treated exactly the same as someone serving a post-conviction sentence, then even under Rehnquist's logic that should be a violation of substantive due process. I'm not sure how you can look at 2 people locked up next to each other in a Federal correctional facility and say the one post-conviction is being punished while the other one pre-trial is not.


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The point that you either don't understand or that you are glossing over is that Jorr has said people are being held indefinitely AND without being charged regarding their actions on January 6th. That is flat out not true.

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yeah, I don't see the government holding people involved in January 6th without charges. Maybe if they take them to gitmo or otherwise out of the country they can claim they aren't entitled to standard due process? but that's for terrorists and I think only non-citizens at that.


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The deal has been offered for Brittany!!!!!

Get weed girl home, so she can go back!!!

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The deal has been offered for Brittany!!!!!

Get weed girl home, so she can go back!!!


Interesting conundrum. What if Russia said if you serve your sentence of a year or two in prison you could return to your million dollar Russian b-ball gig, but if you leave via a prisoner swap you can never come back?

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Hawg Ass wrote:
The deal has been offered for Brittany!!!!!

Get weed girl home, so she can go back!!!


Interesting conundrum. What if Russia said if you serve your sentence of a year or two in prison you could return to your million dollar Russian b-ball gig, but if you leave via a prisoner swap you can never come back?

Frankly if she got eaten by a shark, it wouldn't bother me.

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Which will be the first CBD or weed retailer to offer her a sponsorship?

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Frankly if she got eaten by a shark, it wouldn't bother me.
As long as its not a man, she doesn't care who eats her.

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