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For those interested, I'll try to post these every week. I'm only including the players that met the PFF snap minimum

After Week 1


QB: Fields 30th out of 32

WR: St. Brown 44th out of 100, Mooney 81st out of 100

HB: Montgomery 53rd out of 53

FB: Blasingame 12th out of 12

TE: Griffin 26th out of 56, Kmet 34th out of 56

Center: Mustipher 18th out of 33

Guard: Jenkins 8th out of 68, Patrick 26th out of 68, Whitehair 39th out of 68

Tackle: Borom 12th out of 64, Jones 53rd out of 64

CB: Johnson 4th out of 95, Gordon 43rd out of 95, Vildor 70th out of 95

S: Jackson 12th out of 70, Brisker 58th out of 70

LB: Morrow 62nd out of 77, Smith 74th out of 77

Interior Line: Watts 54th out of 123, Jones 118th out of 123, Blackson 120th out of 123

Edge: Robinson 6th out of 93, Gipson 66th out of 93, Quinn 84th out of 93, Muhammad 89th out of 93

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2022 9:14 pm 
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Team rankings after week 1

2022 TEAM GRADES

OVERALL
32nd

OFFENSE
30th

DEFENSE
31st

SPECIAL TEAMS
10th

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That's pretty impressive for 1-0.


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Where was Herbert ranked?

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Augie wrote:
Team rankings after week 1

2022 TEAM GRADES

OVERALL
32nd

OFFENSE
30th

DEFENSE
31st

SPECIAL TEAMS
10th


They should also include:

DRIVE EXTENDING PENALTY INDUCEMENT
1st

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Nas wrote:
Where was Herbert ranked?


19th if he had met the snap minimum.

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Augie wrote:
Nas wrote:
Where was Herbert ranked?


19th if he had met the snap minimum.


Don't play him. That's just what they are expecting us to do.

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Roquan Smith lost money by the minute, don't think players are lining up for advice from the oddly named Saint Omni.


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Nothing against you Augie but PFF is a scam. 32 film graders with various football backgrounds (hopefully) then combining the results is ridiculous. The results within team that's scored by same grader can be somewhat useful if the grader knows what he's watching but there's a big question if that's the case. Who knows what the background of their graders is. Is the grader a former Division II QB who does some HS coaching or is it a guy that was in the band then decided to take a football film evaluation course?

There QB "expert" is an Irishman who never played football at any level...may have never even thrown a football in his life. :lol:

PFF could be a fun thing for fans but their hubris and the laziness of NFL writers actually makes it toxic. The writers love it because they don't have to re-watch games they just cite the very questionable PFF scores.


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I’m not digging the Irish hate around here lately.

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MongoMuller wrote:
Nothing against you Augie but PFF is a scam. 32 film graders with various football backgrounds (hopefully) then combining the results is ridiculous. The results within team that's scored by same grader can be somewhat useful if the grader knows what he's watching but there's a big question if that's the case. Who knows what the background of their graders is. Is the grader a former Division II QB who does some HS coaching or is it a guy that was in the band then decided to take a football film evaluation course?

There QB "expert" is an Irishman who never played football at any level...may have never even thrown a football in his life. :lol:

PFF could be a fun thing for fans but their hubris and the laziness of NFL writers actually makes it toxic. The writers love it because they don't have to re-watch games they just cite the very questionable PFF scores.


No, I get it. I can see where people would look at it critically. I got it for just another information source, mainly for the draft, as I didn't have the Athletic at the time. A lot of it is overkill and frankly mental masturbation at a certain point especially the fantasy and betting info. But overall, it's interesting to read a different perspective for me. I'm not planning to renew for next year, but you never know.

I'm posting it as more information for discussion around here. Your mileage may vary on its worth.

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MongoMuller wrote:
Nothing against you Augie but PFF is a scam. 32 film graders with various football backgrounds (hopefully) then combining the results is ridiculous. The results within team that's scored by same grader can be somewhat useful if the grader knows what he's watching but there's a big question if that's the case. Who knows what the background of their graders is. Is the grader a former Division II QB who does some HS coaching or is it a guy that was in the band then decided to take a football film evaluation course?

There QB "expert" is an Irishman who never played football at any level...may have never even thrown a football in his life. :lol:

PFF could be a fun thing for fans but their hubris and the laziness of NFL writers actually makes it toxic. The writers love it because they don't have to re-watch games they just cite the very questionable PFF scores.


I thought I read that PFF graders come from the same place as call center operators...not kidding.

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If it was Pro Rugby Focus you want that Irishman in there.


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I thought I read that PFF graders come from the same place as call center operators...not kidding.

They have some kind of operation going on in Bangladesh. That was confirmed on a Philly morning show when the host demanded to watch film with the grader who was doing the Eagles.


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A waste of time because unless they have access to every team's playbook they have no idea what each player is supposed to be doing on a play and/or the adjustments that should have been made given the way the opposition lined up.


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good dolphin wrote:
MongoMuller wrote:
Nothing against you Augie but PFF is a scam. 32 film graders with various football backgrounds (hopefully) then combining the results is ridiculous. The results within team that's scored by same grader can be somewhat useful if the grader knows what he's watching but there's a big question if that's the case. Who knows what the background of their graders is. Is the grader a former Division II QB who does some HS coaching or is it a guy that was in the band then decided to take a football film evaluation course?

There QB "expert" is an Irishman who never played football at any level...may have never even thrown a football in his life. :lol:

PFF could be a fun thing for fans but their hubris and the laziness of NFL writers actually makes it toxic. The writers love it because they don't have to re-watch games they just cite the very questionable PFF scores.


I thought I read that PFF graders come from the same place as call center operators...not kidding.


is Hub one of them ?


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Bagels wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
MongoMuller wrote:
Nothing against you Augie but PFF is a scam. 32 film graders with various football backgrounds (hopefully) then combining the results is ridiculous. The results within team that's scored by same grader can be somewhat useful if the grader knows what he's watching but there's a big question if that's the case. Who knows what the background of their graders is. Is the grader a former Division II QB who does some HS coaching or is it a guy that was in the band then decided to take a football film evaluation course?

There QB "expert" is an Irishman who never played football at any level...may have never even thrown a football in his life. :lol:

PFF could be a fun thing for fans but their hubris and the laziness of NFL writers actually makes it toxic. The writers love it because they don't have to re-watch games they just cite the very questionable PFF scores.


I thought I read that PFF graders come from the same place as call center operators...not kidding.


is Hub one of them ?


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A waste of time because unless they have access to every team's playbook they have no idea what each player is supposed to be doing on a play and/or the adjustments that should have been made given the way the opposition lined up.




Agreed. It’s for people who don’t want to watch the games, or never played in their life.. or just don’t understand the game very well so they lean on their ‘metrics’ and pie charts because it makes them feel included in something they’d otherwise be on the outside of.


From what I gather, a sport like Baseball is more metric friendly.. but basing too much of football on metrics is a fools errand imo. I’ve watched Jon Harbaugh lose enough times do to ‘going for it on 4th or going for 2’ because that’s what the metrics say Vs what the actual situation youre in says.. football is a game of situations and coordinated properly timed and executed assignments.. and if you don’t understand that and try to bypass it with nothing more than stats.. you’re in for it.

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