Nas wrote:
veganfan21 wrote:
Nas wrote:
veganfan21 wrote:
Cutler was probably the city's best QB. Low bar, I know.
Even worse for you, it is Mitchell (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky.
Let's hear your case. I don't see how it could be (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky since he was run out of town after three years of starting.
He was run out of town because he wasn't close to Mahomes or Masseuse. Pretty much whatever metric you want to use, he's better than Cutler was in Chicago. By now, I would have thought a guy like you would have peaked at the actual statistics.
I have taken a look, my friend. They won't be too kind to your position. Your contention about why he was run out of town is also quite flimsy and anti-data. Mahomes had nothing to do with it - he was run out of town for the same reason Tomlin benched him last week: he is too limited as a QB to be the guy. He is, as I've maintained, a quality backup. You would be very well-placed if he was your QB2.
The Ringer has Mitch as the 4th best QB in Bears history, just ahead of Kramer but behind Cutler, Harbaugh, and McMahon. This makes sense and the stats bear it out.
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4. Mitch (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky
Bears TD points: 43 (64, 3rd)
Bears wins points: 29
Career AV points: 30 (so far)
Bonus points: 10 (5 for his Pro Bowl, double for doing it on the Bears)
Total: 112
(Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky’s Bears career will be remembered as a failure. Chicago had the second pick in the 2017 draft and famously took (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky over Patrick Mahomes and Deshaun Watson, even though (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky seemed like the worst prospect of the three and certainly became the worst NFL player of the three. Over four seasons in Chicago, he never cracked the top 10 in any positive passing category, and led an offense that ranked among the bottom five in points scored twice. His greatest career achievement was probably being named “NVP” of last season’s wild-card loss to the Saints after Nickelodeon’s online fan vote was hijacked by people who thought it’d be funny to give the losing QB a slime bath. (Unfortunately, (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky did not receive a slime bath.)
And yet, (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky is easily one of the most prolific passers in Bears history. He is fifth all time in QB wins (29) and touchdown passes (64); he has the highest passer rating (87.2) of anybody to start more than 10 games for the franchise. He is the only Bears quarterback to make a Pro Bowl in the past 30 years. And he would’ve won a playoff game if not for the Double Doink.
(Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky is so supremely frustrating for Bears fans not only because he represents a wasted opportunity for the franchise, but also because he was better than almost everyone else who has quarterbacked for Chicago over the past three decades. If only he had learned to throw left.
1. Jay Cutler
Bears TD points: 45 (154, 1st)
Bears wins points: 51
Career AV points: 44
Bonus points: 20 (5 for his Pro Bowl, 5 each for his Bears franchise records in passing yards, touchdowns, and wins)
Total: 160
It had to be Jay, didn’t it? Cutler was the embodiment of an average quarterback during his tenure in Chicago, with an occasional tendency to lead the NFL in interceptions. The Bears went exactly 51-51 in his 102 starts—52-52 including the playoffs. His career peaked before he even got to the team, as his lone Pro Bowl appearance and lone 4,000-yard season came during his final year with the Broncos.
But on Bears Mountain, being an average QB makes you a giant. He is Chicago’s all-time leader in touchdown passes (154), passing yards (23,443), and career wins. For a franchise perpetually mired in hideous battles between has-beens, journeymen, and future busts, Cutler started in Chicago for nearly a decade.
Cutler is inarguably the greatest Bears quarterback since their last Super Bowl appearance. That says more about the Bears than it does about Cutler. This is the bar that Justin Fields has to clear. I think he can do it.