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Justin Fields looked like an NFL quarterback.


13/21 179 Yards 1 TD 1 INT

A middle of the road NFL QB I guess, but I know standards are low in Chicago


You are missing an important part of his game. Also, the Bears ran the ball the last 8 or so minutes. Most teams would have thrown in a couple of play action passes that would have goosed that passing line. Bears just kept pounding it, all the way to the point of taking a knee at the 1


On top of that, I thought this was the best thing about Fields ' performance: 10 3rd down conversions (the Bears had 11 overall), with five passing conversions and five running conversions. Two of those passes went for 20 yards each. That's important and I hope we see more of that.

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Justin Fields looked like an NFL quarterback.


13/21 179 Yards 1 TD 1 INT

A middle of the road NFL QB I guess, but I know standards are low in Chicago


You are missing an important part of his game. Also, the Bears ran the ball the last 8 or so minutes. Most teams would have thrown in a couple of play action passes that would have goosed that passing line. Bears just kept pounding it, all the way to the point of taking a knee at the 1


Yeah, the passing stats only tell half of the story. The only person who could stop Fields last night was Fields himself. He made some elite plays, but he also made some awful unforced errors. Fortunately, the good outweighed the bad. It will be interesting to see whether or not he can keep the momentum going next week against one of the premier defensive teams in the NFL.

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This game is going to just be ugly as shit. Like another version of the Washington game from last week.

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Me too. Even when the Bears went down 14-10, it was a fun game to watch.



I don't know how Bob and Rogue manage to get themselves dressed in the mornings. Just mind numbingly awful takes on a daily basis.

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Justin Fields was the best offensive player in the game. Even with the 4 fumbles.

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The Bears could win 13 game next season, and Fields could win league MVP and Super Bowl MVP and certain people would still bash him. Gee, I wonder why ??

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Justin Fields was the best offensive player in the game. Even with the 4 fumbles.


Several times I was surprised and admired his ability to feel pressure and escape it.

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Justin Fields looked like an NFL quarterback.


13/21 179 Yards 1 TD 1 INT

A middle of the road NFL QB I guess, but I know standards are low in Chicago

It was a solid performance, Bob. It's really the first one I've seen from him. I didn't see he was great or dominating, but as Nas said....he showed poise and confidence.


When the Bears win the Super Bowl, CB will complain that the trophy is not shiny enough.

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Justin Fields was the best offensive player in the game. Even with the 4 fumbles.


Easily the best offensive player I would say.

But things could have easily been disastrous if those fumbles bounced a little differently.

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Justin Fields was the best offensive player in the game. Even with the 4 fumbles.

Well when this stat turns the other way its going to be a problem because he isnt good at actually throwing the football.

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Not going to win many games like this but maybe theyll play more teams who also have 2 bad quarterbacks.

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Justin Fields was the best offensive player in the game. Even with the 4 fumbles.
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Easily the best offensive player I would say.

But things could have easily been disastrous if those fumbles bounced a little differently.
And if the queen had stones....

FIelds is a little Cutleresque with his decision making. Some, maybe even most of that, can be coached out of him. The sheer talent, speed, and playmaking ability he is cannot be coached up or coached in to anyone.

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Justin Fields looked like an NFL quarterback.


13/21 179 Yards 1 TD 1 INT

A middle of the road NFL QB I guess, but I know standards are low in Chicago

It was a solid performance, Bob. It's really the first one I've seen from him. I didn't see he was great or dominating, but as Nas said....he showed poise and confidence.


When the Bears win the Super Bowl, CB will complain that the trophy is not shiny enough.


When the Bears win the Super Bowl, the Bumper Humper will be too consumed with me to even enjoy the victory himself.

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When the Bears win the Super Bowl, you will be too consumed with starting White Sox spring training threads in the MLB section. You fucking genius.

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So Fields may be a high end running back and is elite at recovering fumbles.

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Justin Fields was the best offensive player in the game. Even with the 4 fumbles.
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Easily the best offensive player I would say.

But things could have easily been disastrous if those fumbles bounced a little differently.
And if the queen had stones....

FIelds is a little Cutleresque with his decision making. Some, maybe even most of that, can be coached out of him. The sheer talent, speed, and playmaking ability he is cannot be coached up or coached in to anyone.


You seem to blithely dismiss Fields' fumbling problem, which he has displayed since entering the league. The fact that he or his teammates have recovered the bulk of them strikes me as pure luck. He needs to be more careful with the ball or his carelessness will result in losses for the Bears and/or his benching.

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I literally just compared Fields to Cutler who was a turnover machine at times. I hardly think that is being dismissive of anything.

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Justin Fields was the best offensive player in the game. Even with the 4 fumbles.

Well when this stat turns the other way its going to be a problem because he isnt good at actually throwing the football.

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Not going to win many games like this but maybe theyll play more teams who also have 2 bad quarterbacks.

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I don't disagree with any of this. I'm not ignoring the ball security and accuracy issues. I still can't recall a game where a quarterback almost had 5 turnovers, but he was in complete command of the game and the best player on the field. I was more encouraged by his performance for 4 quarters than I've been in any other game.

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I literally just compared Fields to Cutler who was a turnover machine at times. I hardly think that is being dismissive of anything.


Fumbling is not a "decision making" problem, so your comparison to Cutler seems odd.

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If that's an illegal block you might as well just go to flag football.

They were borderline already engaged. Such a baby back bitch call.
The woman ref probably threw that flag

You're both dumb...that is textbook example of a BSB, all he had to do was lead with the hands. Shouldn't have been an ejection though. Flag was either from umpire or referee as down judge and line judge are taking the goal line.

You can't block at all heading towards your own goal line. Only heading upfield.



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It is a foul if a player initiates a block when his path is toward or parallel to his own end line and makes forcible contact to his opponent with his helmet, forearm, or shoulder.

https://www.footballzebras.com/2020/12/ ... r-illegal/

As I said above, if he leads with the hands it is legal...

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I literally just compared Fields to Cutler who was a turnover machine at times. I hardly think that is being dismissive of anything.


Fumbling is not a "decision making" problem, so your comparison to Cutler seems odd.

Probably because he’s a fucking moron but of course you already know this.

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I literally just compared Fields to Cutler who was a turnover machine at times. I hardly think that is being dismissive of anything.


Fumbling is not a "decision making" problem, so your comparison to Cutler seems odd.
Fumbling because you are holding on to the ball too long or not throwing it away when you have the opportunity to do so IS a decision making problem. Like Cutler deciding to chuck it downfield only to allow DeAngelo hall to pick it off four times in the same game.

Not sure why you find this very similar comparison to be so odd.

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I literally just compared Fields to Cutler who was a turnover machine at times. I hardly think that is being dismissive of anything.


Fumbling is not a "decision making" problem, so your comparison to Cutler seems odd.
Fumbling because you are holding on to the ball too long or not throwing it away when you have the opportunity to do so IS a decision making problem. Like Cutler deciding to chuck it downfield only to allow DeAngelo hall to pick it off four times in the same game.

Not sure why you find this very similar comparison to be so odd.


I find your comparison odd because it is goofy as shit.

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If that's an illegal block you might as well just go to flag football.

They were borderline already engaged. Such a baby back bitch call.
The woman ref probably threw that flag

You're both dumb...that is textbook example of a BSB, all he had to do was lead with the hands. Shouldn't have been an ejection though. Flag was either from umpire or referee as down judge and line judge are taking the goal line.

You can't block at all heading towards your own goal line. Only heading upfield.



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It is a foul if a player initiates a block when his path is toward or parallel to his own end line and makes forcible contact to his opponent with his helmet, forearm, or shoulder.

https://www.footballzebras.com/2020/12/ ... r-illegal/

As I said above, if he leads with the hands it is legal...

You guys need to stop taking the fun out of unnecessary roughness.

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Its a perfect apt comparison as explained above, TM.

The Fields fumble that went out of bounds last night was a bad decision. He could have and should have thrown the ball away. If you don't understand that, I don't know what else to say.

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Its a perfect apt comparison as explained above, TM.

The Fields fumble that went out of bounds last night was a bad decision. He could have and should have thrown the ball away. If you don't understand that, I don't know what else to say.


He could have made the same "bad decision" and not fumbled simply by holding onto the ball more tightly. Many of his fumbles have been unforced errors or committed with only light or moderate amounts of defensive pressure.

You are conflating ball security with something unrelated to ball security.

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What? :lol: :lol: Oh, so holding on the ball tight and taking a sack to lose 10+ yards is he same "bad decision" as throwing the ball away when he was already out of the pocket and had a clear lane to throw the ball down the sideline? Now THAT is goofy as shit.

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What? :lol: :lol: Oh, so holding on the ball tight and taking a sack to lose 10+ yards is he same "bad decision" as throwing the ball away when he was already out of the pocket and had a clear lane to throw the ball down the sideline? Now THAT is goofy as shit.

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I haven't said anything of the kind. All I'm saying is that holding the ball tightly instead of loosely is not a "decision making" issue. And no one who plays, coaches or analyzes the game describes it as such.

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Setting up for a battle of elite NFC teams next week...

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The Bears have the 6th best record in the NFC.



Setting up for a battle of elite NFC teams next week...


I'll feel better if they play well and lose at the end. The only game I need them to win is against the Packers.

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