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It floats my boat if an assigned career backup can drop 22/6 against the best defensive team in the league.

But PWill was like -19 last night.


If the Bulls were to put both players on the market tomorrow one guy would still fetch a couple of first rounders while the other would fetch an expiring contract. Pretty much sums up what their respective "values" happens to be now doesn't it?


Hyperbolic much dude?


Not really.

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Ayo is so great that in 10-11 months he still has been unable to make people forget about the "immortal" Lonzo Ball. Yar!

And by the way anyone interested in discussing just how Lonzo is supposed to be better than Jalen Brunson right now? :lol: :lol:

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The Missing Link wrote:
Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
It floats my boat if an assigned career backup can drop 22/6 against the best defensive team in the league.

But PWill was like -19 last night.


If the Bulls were to put both players on the market tomorrow one guy would still fetch a couple of first rounders while the other would fetch an expiring contract. Pretty much sums up what their respective "values" happens to be now doesn't it?


I guess if you were the other GM. Nobody is giving up 2 first rounders for Patrick Williams.

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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
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It floats my boat if an assigned career backup can drop 22/6 against the best defensive team in the league.

But PWill was like -19 last night.


If the Bulls were to put both players on the market tomorrow one guy would still fetch a couple of first rounders while the other would fetch an expiring contract. Pretty much sums up what their respective "values" happens to be now doesn't it?


I guess if you were the other GM. Nobody is giving up 2 first rounders for Patrick Williams.


Some top team that's going to draft in the late 20's might! But that's worth as much as an expiring contract.


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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
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It floats my boat if an assigned career backup can drop 22/6 against the best defensive team in the league.

But PWill was like -19 last night.


If the Bulls were to put both players on the market tomorrow one guy would still fetch a couple of first rounders while the other would fetch an expiring contract. Pretty much sums up what their respective "values" happens to be now doesn't it?


I guess if you were the other GM. Nobody is giving up 2 first rounders for Patrick Williams.


The Bulls already turned down Gobert in order to keep the PAW. His stock hasn't dropped that much after 4 games.

And besides this is about AYO. Who can't even make people forget about the "immortal" Lonzo after 10-11 months of "manning" the position. Yeah he sure is the "change" that we have been waiting for.

And I say this as a huge AYO guy right now. If for no other reason than the fact that he supplanted that bum Coby White. Something which I predicted last year around this time by the way.

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KDdidit wrote:
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It floats my boat if an assigned career backup can drop 22/6 against the best defensive team in the league.

But PWill was like -19 last night.


If the Bulls were to put both players on the market tomorrow one guy would still fetch a couple of first rounders while the other would fetch an expiring contract. Pretty much sums up what their respective "values" happens to be now doesn't it?


I guess if you were the other GM. Nobody is giving up 2 first rounders for Patrick Williams.


Some top team that's going to draft in the late 20's might! But that's worth as much as an expiring contract.


Nah. If the Bulls put him on the market tomorrow the kid would still attract a helluva lot of interest around the league. Why? Because the talent is there and Everyone knows it.

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Well....anytime he wants to demonstrate it, I'll be his biggest fan.

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The Bulls already turned down Gobert in order to keep the PAW.


I heard something about that and I just assumed it wasn't true.

Because if it is true, Good Lord why?

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Did anyone else see the article in the Sun Times about a CPS employee moonlighting as a publicist for Williams

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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
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The Bulls already turned down Gobert in order to keep the PAW.


I heard something about that and I just assumed it wasn't true.

Because if it is true, Good Lord why?


Well let's see. "Aging big" vs 21 year old with MAJOR upside. Which way would you go?

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The Missing Link wrote:
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The Bulls already turned down Gobert in order to keep the PAW.


I heard something about that and I just assumed it wasn't true.

Because if it is true, Good Lord why?


Well let's see. "Aging big" vs 21 year old with MAJOR upside. Which way would you go?


I’d go DPOY who is 30 next to a bunch of guys that age and go for it.

No way that trade would have happened.

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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
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The Bulls already turned down Gobert in order to keep the PAW.


I heard something about that and I just assumed it wasn't true.

Because if it is true, Good Lord why?


Well let's see. "Aging big" vs 21 year old with MAJOR upside. Which way would you go?


I’d go DPOY who is 30 next to a bunch of guys that age and go for it.

No way that trade would have happened.


Yeah the Bulls would have been stupid to make that move.

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LOL. Well, that's not what I meant but I enjoyed your take.

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The Missing Link wrote:
Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
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The Bulls already turned down Gobert in order to keep the PAW.


I heard something about that and I just assumed it wasn't true.

Because if it is true, Good Lord why?


Well let's see. "Aging big" vs 21 year old with MAJOR upside. Which way would you go?


I’d go DPOY who is 30 next to a bunch of guys that age and go for it.

No way that trade would have happened.


Yeah the Bulls would have been stupid to make that move.


AK hasn't exactly proven himself to be one of the shrewder operators in the NBA thus far.

The guy hands out more guaranteed money to gimps than Chas hands out roofies to middle school girls.

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AKs worst move? Ball

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AKs worst move? Ball


Yep and they'd look a whole helluva lot better if they'd made the move for John Wall as I suggested this time last season 312

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Which non-tanking team would trade for Patrick Williams and make him the center piece of their offense?

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LTG's day 1 moves as new GM of the Bulls:

1) Trade DeRozan and LaVine for Ben Simmons
2) Anoint Simmons as team captain and "Chief Work Ethic and Professionalism Officer"
3) Cut Coby White
4) Frame Javonte Green for felony robbery; cut Green
5) Replace Donovan with Patrick Williams' uncle as HC
6) Run isos all game long for Williams
7) Declare Williams MVP and MIP after he averages 3.2 PPG 1.7 RBG and 0.5 APG for the year
8 ) Retire Williams' jersey #

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LTG's day 1 moves as new GM of the Bulls:

1) Trade DeRozan and LaVine for Ben Simmons
2) Anoint Simmons as team captain and "Chief Work Ethic and Professionalism Officer"
3) Cut Coby White
4) Frame Javonte Green for felony robbery; cut Green
5) Replace Donovan with Patrick Williams' uncle as HC
6) Run isos all game long for Williams
7) Declare Williams MVP and MIP after he averages 3.2 PPG 1.7 RBG and 0.5 APG for the year
8 ) Retire Williams' jersey #


You have now reached the portion of the show where Vegan and his requisite version non sequitur theater have entered the fray. YOO HOO!

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Which non-tanking team would trade for Patrick Williams and make him the center piece of their offense?


Sacramento. But I'm not exactly advocating for him to be the "centerpiece of the offense". I'm just advocating for him to be "included" in the offense. "Can they do that for a brother"? Particularly (As everyone keeps reminding us) given that he was a #4 draft pick?

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Which non-tanking team would trade for Patrick Williams and make him the center piece of their offense?


Sacramento. But I'm not exactly advocating for him to be the "centerpiece of the offense". I'm just advocating for him to be "included" in the offense. Is that too much to ask for a "brother"? Particularly (As everyone keeps reminding us) that he was a #4 draft pick?

I'll just say your thesis is correct. They aren't going to be anywhere near the Finals without Williams being good. If Donovan doesn't know this, he should. And if he does, let's hope he has a plan.


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Which non-tanking team would trade for Patrick Williams and make him the center piece of their offense?


Sacramento. But I'm not exactly advocating for him to be the "centerpiece of the offense". I'm just advocating for him to be "included" in the offense. Is that too much to ask for a "brother"? Particularly (As everyone keeps reminding us) that he was a #4 draft pick?

I'll just say your thesis is correct. They aren't going to be anywhere near the Finals without Williams being good. If Donovan doesn't know this, he should. And if he does, let's hope he has a plan.


He might and I actually think Billy D is a good coach. I just think that he hasn't figured out how to adequately develop this kid while still trying to win. There is no way in hell that an inefficient "scorer" such as Coby White should still be an "intricate" part of the offense but the Paw is not at this stage of the game.

The Paw also should not have to wrestle for minutes with G-League caliber players such as Javonte Green either. If they believe that the kid needed to "compete" for the position, then they should have went out and found him someone worthy of competing against. Javonte Green ain't that dude.

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Coby has one purpose. To shoot the 3 at a high percentage. He's at 23.5%. He's awful on the other end so his career is on the line in the next 10-15 games.


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One of the betting websites a distinguished Dr. Kenneth Noisewater has been known to peruse wrote:
What a disappointment Patrick Williams has been in his career. The former fourth overall pick in the 2020 NBA Draft is having his worst season to date. He is averaging 5.3 points, 2.3 rebounds, and he has yet to record an assist through four games. We’ll gladly take the under on his points, rebounds, and assists prop line.

Not only has Williams been playing poorly, but his minutes are taking a hit. In his last two games, Williams has played only 16 and 15 minutes. With all of the Bulls players healthy, it is tough to see Williams getting increased playing time when he is struggling so much

Our model has Williams projected for only seven total points, rebounds, and assists, which is well below his prop line. He is still projected to be in the starting lineup, but who knows how long that will last. Williams continues to be arguably the Bulls’ best perimeter defender, but that can only get a player so far in this league.


I wanted to put a bet on him and post it here but can't be done. There are no options for PWill.

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Hey, I found one.

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He better hit the first basket because he will be sitting on the bench the rest of the game after he misses it.

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He’s +1400 on BetRivers for the first basket, same as Ayo. -150 on the under for 3.5 rebounds, -143 for the under on Ayo at 3.5 boards.


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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
He better hit the first basket because he will be sitting on the bench the rest of the game after he misses it.


They should have put an over/under on the number of touches he gets prior to his first benching. Now that one would be pretty "interesting" to say the least.

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Alright, I found him for 10 & 6 tonight for $80.

If he doesn't get it, I don’t know who you are. I don’t know why you like this guy. If I lose this bet, I can tell you I don’t have money.

But what I do have are a very particular set of skills. Skills I have acquired over a very long career of message board posting. Skills that make me a nightmare for people like you. If you let PWill go now, that will be the end of it. I will not look for you. I will not pursue you. But if you don’t, I will look for you, I will find you, and I will...well, I won't kill you...but I'll bug you for a long time.

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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
Alright, I found him for 10 & 6 tonight for $80.

If he doesn't get it, I don’t know who you are. I don’t know why you like this guy. If I lose this bet, I can tell you I don’t have money.

But what I do have are a very particular set of skills. Skills I have acquired over a very long career of message board posting. Skills that make me a nightmare for people like you. If you let PWill go now, that will be the end of it. I will not look for you. I will not pursue you. But if you don’t, I will look for you, I will find you, and I will...well, I won't kill you...but I'll bug you for a long time.


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