Ideally you can trade down a couple spots and still come away with extra picks and either Anderson or Carter.

If you can come out of the offseason with Anderson/Carter and Payne that is a great start to rebuilding this team.

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They have Sweat for 1 more year on his 5th option. They will exercise the 5th year option on Chase Young and have him pretty cheap for two more years. This really won't be a problem for them until next year when Sweat wants to get paid. Regardless I doubt they just let 25 year DT that put up 11+ sacks walk out the door for nothing. They could also tag and trade him.

Then there's the whole convincing a QB to come sign at Washington....Yes, money talks, but Washington is not really a good QB destination. If they trade for a QB fine, but I wouldn't be surprised at all of Heineke is the starter next year.

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I read some draft preview that quoted Eberflus as saying the 3-technique is the “engine that makes everything go.” If they can’t find that in FA, I’d have to think they take Carter assuming Poles is on the same page.

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Will be paying more attention to Lovie vs the Colts than the glorified practice that will happen Sunday in Chicago.

Seems that Poles saw an opportunity to get the #1 pick and decided to sit Fields, have to think that Poles must have a detailed master plan for the offseason that must include trading down at least once in the first round, having the #1 pick almost allows for a double trade down with the accumulation of numerous early round picks.

A rare opportunity to rebuild your entire roster in one offseason, can see them with all new starters on the front seven defensively, and with nearly as many across the offense, so basically starting day one next year with a completely different team.

Poles has not exactly shown tremendous abilities on the pro scouting side, so you have to hope he can hit on a majority of his early round picks.

Tell me why Peter Skoronski shouldn't be our first round pick.

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Extremley short arms, projects as a guard

He isnt a top 5 guy. If you trade down into the middle of the 1st round then he is someone to look at.

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Yeah, I was thinking more about the Falcons draft position.

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That’s fine but I’d hope they get a haul if they’re dropping that far. Otherwise I’d rather they just take Carter or Anderson.

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They would be getting at least the Falcons first round pick next season. It's very likely that pick will be a top 10 pick. They'll probably get their first round pick the following season. I don't see the Bears getting more than 1 additional first round pick if they stay in the top 5. I also believe the Colts are a quarterback away from being a playoff team, so any future first round pick from them will probably suck.

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I’m still convinced that this version of Fields is fine if you can turn around the defense. Run the ball, play defense better and you’re a playoff team.

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I can see this. It's like there are two paths to winning:

All world QB and above average skill players + above average defense

Game manager QB with elite RB and elite defense

Maybe you get Fields to a point where he's a tier above a game manager QB and build up the defense.

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Kyrie Irving will never win anything as a team's alpha: check
T.rubisky is a bust: check
Ben Simmons is a liability: check
The Fields Cult is dumb: double check

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Falcons drafted Ridder with a high 3 last year. They will let that one play out before trading away picks for another QB

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I'm not betting my career on that if I'm Poles.

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i'm willing to build a team and offense around fields. he's far from perfect and has faults, but if you go rookie QB again you run the risk of ending up worse off. based on what i've seen, i'm willing to work with him and see where it goes. would take a crazy draft pick haul for me to move fields

The risk goes both ways - the rookie ends up being worse than Fields, yes, he could also be better. The fact that we're having this convo means Fields hasn't earned made man status, in which case it'd be absurd to even talk about replacing him.

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Kyrie Irving will never win anything as a team's alpha: check
T.rubisky is a bust: check
Ben Simmons is a liability: check
The Fields Cult is dumb: double check

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He’s an elite runner, which gets you half way there on offense before taking into account skill guys and linemen.

The D can be easily upgraded at 7 or 8 spots. Throw the resources there.

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Build around a running QB and you're holding your breath every time the QB takes off running. One hit and you're running QB based offense is rendered useless. after playing every game he needed to the prior 2 seasons, Lamar
Jackson hasn't been able to stay on the field all the way the last 2 seasons. Mahomes is a reluctant runner: last chance play to make a 1st down on 3rd and long or 4th down and Mahomes might take off running. Otherwise he's looking looking pass-first and pass-last--the running game is there, but it's all bonus.

Probably need to at least bring in kickers to push Santos. He's been great at FGs, but he missed 5 XPs this season. Not acceptable.

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100%. And you hope you can fall back on defense when the guy is inevitably injured.

For this team, I don’t love the idea of trying to build a great offense around Fields if we’re not sure he can even use it.

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Would you bet your future on Justin Fields becoming a good passer? If not, you have to trade him this offseason.

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Would you bet your future on the QB you take with the #1 pick being better than Justin Fields?



Mahomes is/has been throwing to guys like Travis Kelce, JuJu Smith-Schuster, Valdes-scantling, Tyreek Hill. Of course he is looking pass first.

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I wouldn’t but I don’t think anybody who’s watched him objectively would either. If I were a GM, no way I’d bet my livelihood trading meaningful assets for him.

So either the Bears double up at QB or they embrace having an elite runner at the position and hope he can mature as a passer. I’d like to see them improve his protection and maybe get a guy who can catch it out of the backfield late in the draft but avoid using big dollars/high draft picks on offensive weapons.

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I wouldn't bet my future on Fields or the projected top 2 quarterbacks.

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But Poles sort of has to.

Or go out and get Derek Carr because the RAIDERS owe him a ton of bread.

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Why are you avoiding offensive weapons? When you said you wouldn't build around Fields, I agreed, but I assumed you meant you wouldn't want to draft guys specifically because their style of plays meshes with Fields. Unless I'm reading your above post incorrectly, it looks like "building around Fields" means something different to the both of us.

I do want weapons. I would draft/acquire legit studs at WR or TE etc because to me I need those players irrespective of who is at QB. If Fields sucks then I find a QB who can leverage the weapons in front of him. In other words, I don't want to skip drafting the next Megatron (I know there's prolly no Megatron in the draft, but just using him as an example), just because my QB (Fields) can't capitalize on Megatron's talents. To me, it's give me Megatron because he's the best player available, and if the QB can't use him, I'll find one someone who can.

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Kyrie Irving will never win anything as a team's alpha: check
T.rubisky is a bust: check
Ben Simmons is a liability: check
The Fields Cult is dumb: double check

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Jimmy G and Geno Smith are the other 2 options...or you try and get Daniel Jones.

None of these are great Long-term options, but IF Poles is tied to the success of Fields by keeping him another year, they have to trade him away while it's possible.

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Matthew Stafford will probably be available too.

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Jimmy G, Geno Smith?!?! Jesus what the fuck is wrong with some of you people?