Depends on the return. You HAVE to get a 1st next year in the deal. If it's the Panthers, you gotta get a couple 2nds and a 1st next year.

Yeah, I don't see many scenarios where I trade my #1 pick without getting a future first too.

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Indy does make the most sense given you get a boatload in return while staying in the top 5.

There are tons of interesting scenarios out there already, did see one where the Titans pony up Jeffrey Simmons and a bunch of picks, also seeing stuff about the Raiders putting together a package that would include Davante Adams.

If you do trade down to 4 and Levis is there, you likely will get tons of offers to move down again, shaping up to be the most interesting first round in Bears history.

If we got Jeffrey Simmons than hopefully it means we would be ditching this archaic, obsolete Tampa 2 defense.

Let's say you trade with the colts, and when your pick comes up, the 2nd QB is still sitting there? Do the Panthers call you?

Indy doesn't make any sense. they can take Stroud or whomever at 4 without giving up a thing. Young is no sure thing to give up a kings ransom for when you can get Stroud 2 picks later. Naturally other teams trading up can change things but as they stand now im not trading shit to move up.

You trade up to ensure you get your guy. Leaving it to chance when you don't have job security is foolish.

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Their GM just said he failed the team because he couldn't solve the QB problem. They've acquired Rivers, Wentz, Ryan, Foles and who knows who else once Luck retired. It's all failed miserably except maybe Rivers, who performed respectably enough. With the GM's comments, plus their history, you have to assume he's either drafting a top 2 QB prospect this year, or he's acquiring Burrow, Mahomes, Allen, etc. Since the latter is unlikely, makes me think he's down with ensuring he gets a shot at a top 2 QB prospect.

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Yep, I'm looking to the dumbass (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky trade, the dumbass Lance trade, and the Goff trade as models for a deal for the no 1 pick.

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Even the (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky trade is too light. All but the Bears pick turned into studs, but I need more. The Lance, Watson, and Wilson trades are the bar for me.

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The problem with this is that there is no standout MUST HAVE number 1 qb. Each have flaws and if you already have a top 4 pick you are assured of getting one of them without trading up.

I agree there's no clear-cut no 1 but you're assuming no one is going to scoop Indy by trading in front of them to grab either Stroud or whatever QB. If he wants a top 4 QB, fine, he can stay put, but if he wants either Young or whoever ends up no 2, then he has to trade up and not hope something breaks his way. With what he said today, it's clear he's desperate for a QB.

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Bears and Cardinals swap #1 and #3 with Hopkins going to the Bears?

They just gave Murray a billion dollars. Move down two spots for a WR on the downside of his career coming off a steroid suspension who wants a new deal?

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He's too old and may not be a top 10 receiver.

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In 1/2 a season this year he had 64 catches 717 yards. He can still play.

If they want to do what Dallas did with Cooper in order to dump his salary, I would listen. A rebuilding team shouldn't trade a #1 pick for an aging receiver.

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like I said before, we now need to hope for some strong pro days from these QB

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Someone would have to destroy the combine to not have Young be the clear #1.

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I think he means #1 as in the best available, not necessarily #1 as in a superstar who will define a generation. You move heaven and earth to draft the generational superstar. You're not as motivated to move up to draft a guy whose merely most likely the best QB available in 2023. I think Indy is motivated simply because of their history and what their GM said today.

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He seems to think there isn't going to be a massive difference between the top 3 quarterbacks. Young will be far more covered than anyone else.

Young isn't as exciting as Lawrence or Andrew Luck but he's far ahead of most other qbs. Look at how desperate teams were for Lance and Wilson and Young is better than them.

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This is a sincere question since I don't follow college football. Is young merely the best prospect this year or is he one of the best college QB prospects of the past 5-10 years. The former (i.e. tallest midget syndrome) is not necessarily impressive but again I'm not familiar with any of these guys.

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Burrow and Lawrence are pretty far ahead of him. He could be third behind them. I think he's on par with Murray.

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What makes him the best prospect in his class?

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Poles is definitely open to trading Fields.

https://youtu.be/9kUlHKALEpM

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My guy says he's Drew Brees.

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The question isn’t if Bryce Young is good enough to draft number one overall, the question is, is he good enough for Indy to use multiple year’s draft choices to pick up? Bryce Young might be the clear cut number one of this class, but he also is only marginally better than a couple others. Indy sacrificing two potentially high first round draft picks for Bryce Young when they can have CJ Stroud at number four seems like a big gamble to me. If the Bears trade fields, all of this changes.

I think Stroud will fall in the draft.

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Again you're assuming no team is gonna leapfrog Indy to take Stroud. A savvy GM should plant that seed in Indy's mind so they're inclined to trade up.

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Indy will not allow their quarterback needy divisional rival to get the best quarterback in the draft. Irsay is too competitive and Ballard wants to save his job

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