Joe has done a masterful job of trolling everyone about everything over past half decade

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

This is one of your dumber takes ever. Stop with that nonsense.

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"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
--yet I can't look away."

I was assuming he was making a joke.

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http://soundcloud.com/darkside124 HOF 2013, MM Champion 2014

I dont think we can make that assumption with him and basketball. It is like reading CofF on any subject.

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"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
--yet I can't look away."

He couldn't be a meatball on baseball, football AND basketball...

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"Play until it hurts, then play until it hurts to not play."
http://soundcloud.com/darkside124 HOF 2013, MM Champion 2014

my office is super quiet and had to stifle laughter on this one . Typing in all caps would be an awesome new bit

don't forget Camp One Step

I assumed it was a little heavy handed. Every all time great player sucks playing GM. You need a birdseye view that doesn't exist when you are playing. Guys like Jordan and Elway keep looking for #1 players like them. They don't really exist.

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Yeah, Krause was so excited to run Jordan, Phil, and everybody else out of town so he could really show how brilliant he was and we got Tyson and Curry out of it.

I would have to look back at those drafts, but I think Curry was his only true failure. You can't give an athlete heart. Literally and figuratively.

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I wish I could unsee this.

This is what I'm talking about. You have a childhood love for Jordan that will never allow you to consider anyone could be better. That's fine. I don't want to take that from you. But the fact that you're going to insult anyone who disagrees is absurd.

You're the meatball. "The best that ever was. The best that ever will be." Okay, guy.

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Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

That's not true. Reader mentioned Jerry West in this thread. I don't know if you want to call Ozzie Newsome an "all time great" but he is a Hall of Fame player and was one of the best GMs ever.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

How would you make the argument that Jordan is not the GOAT?

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You mean the last two years when he averaged 30 points, 7 assists, and 8 rebounds per game at ages 37 and 38?

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

I meant as a player. I know West has been great, but I always forget Newsome.

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There have not been a lot of player-Gms. LeBron is one of the few to have wielded such power.

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Guys like Mike and Kobe tried too.

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4 rings in 10 Finals. I think that's pretty much an A- for any GM.

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Kyrie Irving will never win anything as a team's alpha: check
T.rubisky is a bust: check
Ben Simmons is a liability: check
The Fields Cult is dumb: double check

2013 CSFMB ROY

Not really. Definitely not to the level of what LeBron has done. He has tried or gotten at least 4 coaches fired that "WE" know of.

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Are you saying 4 rings out of 10 finals is fake news? Was it really the actor who played a disguised Damar Hamlin (RIP) the whole time and not LBJ?

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Kyrie Irving will never win anything as a team's alpha: check
T.rubisky is a bust: check
Ben Simmons is a liability: check
The Fields Cult is dumb: double check

2013 CSFMB ROY

Didn't you previously make the argument that LeBron didn't need the other players in order to get those rings? It was all due to his greatness as a player. Now you seem to be crediting it to his greatness as a Gm.

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He left a shit ass team to win rings, won those rings and then went back to said team and won rings then went to the biggest market and won rings. If that's not incredible I don't know what is.

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the world will always the world. your entire existence is defined by your response.

So we're now celebrating the fact that LeBron James quits on teams once it becomes obvious that they are no longer shit?

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Have you noticed teams are averaging 116 pts a game? In the 90's it was less than a 100. That's at least 32 extra points a game. Guys from that era say Jordan would average 40+ a game. I've seen Jordan play personally a few hundred times. Almost every shot was a good look. It amazed me in 1984 and it amazed me in 1998. Michael Jordan was an maniacal overachiever who's talent was already in the stratosphere. He's also in the team picture for all time defensive players. You seem to be a guy who respects the likes of Russell and Chamberlain while I give them no nevermind. Russell wouldn't be in today's NBA, and Wilt would be a fairly nice piece. Jordan would demolish the NBA right now. Destroy it. Leave it in ashes.

Scoring was high in the 80's too.

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Noooo.... I mean how he's been GMing the team.

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"Play until it hurts, then play until it hurts to not play."
http://soundcloud.com/darkside124 HOF 2013, MM Champion 2014

That's claptrap. It's just Jordan worship. NBA players "evolved" until Jordan and then just stopped "evolving."

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

Teams averaged 109.3 points a game during the 80's.

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GO BEARS!!!