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Poles controls the offseason? That's hilarious. His last two trades he got absolutely swindled on.

I assume he means they have the top pick and the most cap space. Nobody is in a better position that that*.



*except for teams that are actually good

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The Scouting Combine seems too soon to trade the #1 pick. You have to be getting an insane return.

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Look on bright side Bob, you can begin working on your first post after they make the trade. I am sure you will be unhappy with it. So make sure it is an epic post. None of this weak shit.

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Look on bright side Bob, you can begin working on your first post after they make the trade. I am sure you will be unhappy with it. So make sure it is an epic post. None of this weak shit.


I just pray he doesn't get taking behind the woodshed like on the Claypool and Roquan deals.


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Look on bright side Bob, you can begin working on your first post after they make the trade. I am sure you will be unhappy with it. So make sure it is an epic post. None of this weak shit.


He liked the Steelers trade until he didn't.

I'm not one of the people who think Bob is always wrong. I think a lot of his points are valid, but there's a high level of shit throwing mixed in.

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Nas wrote:
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Look on bright side Bob, you can begin working on your first post after they make the trade. I am sure you will be unhappy with it. So make sure it is an epic post. None of this weak shit.


He liked the Steelers trade until he didn't.

I'm not one of the people who think Bob is always wrong. I think a lot of his points are valid, but there's a high level of shit throwing mixed in.


I liked the Claypool deal when I thought we were giving up a late 2nd round pick, not a basically a first rounder.


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Look on bright side Bob, you can begin working on your first post after they make the trade. I am sure you will be unhappy with it. So make sure it is an epic post. None of this weak shit.


He liked the Steelers trade until he didn't.

I'm not one of the people who think Bob is always wrong. I think a lot of his points are valid, plus there's a high level of shit throwing mixed in.

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Caller Bob wrote:
RFDC wrote:
Look on bright side Bob, you can begin working on your first post after they make the trade. I am sure you will be unhappy with it. So make sure it is an epic post. None of this weak shit.


I just pray he doesn't get taking behind the woodshed like on the Claypool and Roquan deals.
Poles got a second rounder for a guy that wasn't going to stay here because the Bears weren't going to pay him.

Poles' options for Roquan Smith were;
-Let him walk and get nothing
-Franchise him and pay him ~$20mil for the 2023 season
-Trade him

You can bash Poles for a number of things. Saying he got taken to the woodshed in the Roquan deal is not only false, its stupid.

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Frank Coztansa wrote:
Caller Bob wrote:
RFDC wrote:
Look on bright side Bob, you can begin working on your first post after they make the trade. I am sure you will be unhappy with it. So make sure it is an epic post. None of this weak shit.


I just pray he doesn't get taking behind the woodshed like on the Claypool and Roquan deals.
Poles got a second rounder for a guy that wasn't going to stay here because the Bears weren't going to pay him.

Poles' options for Roquan Smith were;
-Let him walk and get nothing
-Franchise him and pay him ~$20mil for the 2023 season
-Trade him

You can bash Poles for a number of things. Saying he got taken to the woodshed in the Roquan deal is not only false, its stupid.

Agreed. It is fair to be critical of the Claypool deal, but the Roquan one is about as good as he could have done.

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And Roquan played well and got paid, so good for him.

The Claypool trade doesn't look good right meow, but there is time for this to change.

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The Scouting Combine seems too soon to trade the #1 pick. You have to be getting an insane return.


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Nas wrote:
The Scouting Combine seems too soon to trade the #1 pick. You have to be getting an insane return.


If someone makes you an overwhelming offer, it's never the wrong time to say yes.


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RFDC wrote:
Frank Coztansa wrote:
Caller Bob wrote:
RFDC wrote:
Look on bright side Bob, you can begin working on your first post after they make the trade. I am sure you will be unhappy with it. So make sure it is an epic post. None of this weak shit.


I just pray he doesn't get taking behind the woodshed like on the Claypool and Roquan deals.
Poles got a second rounder for a guy that wasn't going to stay here because the Bears weren't going to pay him.

Poles' options for Roquan Smith were;
-Let him walk and get nothing
-Franchise him and pay him ~$20mil for the 2023 season
-Trade him

You can bash Poles for a number of things. Saying he got taken to the woodshed in the Roquan deal is not only false, its stupid.

Agreed. It is fair to be critical of the Claypool deal, but the Roquan one is about as good as he could have done.


Bradley Chubb and Roquan Smith were both traded at the deadline.

- Both top 10 picks in the 2018 draft
- Both on expiring contracts
- Chubb was a two time pro bowler, Roquan 1 probowl, 2 time 2nd team all pro
- Chubb netted a late first round pick, Roquan a late 2nd round pick.

Roquan certainly was more valuable to the Ravens than Chubb was to the Dolphins, yet Chubb returned alot more. I do agree you had to get something for Roquan, but is it really "as good as he could have done" ? It seems he should have got more.


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Chubb plays a more valued position than Roquan.

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That's debatable in a 3-4 scheme. They also signed nearly identical contract extensions.


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That's a great story, but you aren't painting the entire picture, Bob. You're leaving out a crucial detail to make your bullshit try and smell more like roses. The Dolphins had two first round picks, and traded the 49ers pick that they had acquired for Chubb.

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The Dolphins acquired pass-rusher Bradley Chubb from the Denver Broncos for a package that includes a 2023 first-round pick, NFL Network Insiders Ian Rapoport and Tom Pelissero reported Tuesday, per sources informed of the situation.

Miami had an extra first-rounder from a previous trade with San Francisco 49ers that it will ship to Denver.


Had the Dolphins only had one first round pick, they likely wouldn't have moved it for Chubb.

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Frank Coztansa wrote:
Caller Bob wrote:
RFDC wrote:
Look on bright side Bob, you can begin working on your first post after they make the trade. I am sure you will be unhappy with it. So make sure it is an epic post. None of this weak shit.


I just pray he doesn't get taking behind the woodshed like on the Claypool and Roquan deals.
Poles got a second rounder for a guy that wasn't going to stay here because the Bears weren't going to pay him.

Poles' options for Roquan Smith were;
-Let him walk and get nothing
-Franchise him and pay him ~$20mil for the 2023 season
-Trade him

You can bash Poles for a number of things. Saying he got taken to the woodshed in the Roquan deal is not only false, its stupid.


The worst thing Poles could have done was pay Roquan or lose him to FA and get nothing. The same mistakes the Bulls and Cubs made last year. Lets see how Claypool plays next year before we call that a L.


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Lets see how Claypool plays next year before we call that a L.


That's seems fair and reasonable to me.

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Caller Bob wrote:
RFDC wrote:
Frank Coztansa wrote:
Caller Bob wrote:
RFDC wrote:
Look on bright side Bob, you can begin working on your first post after they make the trade. I am sure you will be unhappy with it. So make sure it is an epic post. None of this weak shit.


I just pray he doesn't get taking behind the woodshed like on the Claypool and Roquan deals.
Poles got a second rounder for a guy that wasn't going to stay here because the Bears weren't going to pay him.

Poles' options for Roquan Smith were;
-Let him walk and get nothing
-Franchise him and pay him ~$20mil for the 2023 season
-Trade him

You can bash Poles for a number of things. Saying he got taken to the woodshed in the Roquan deal is not only false, its stupid.

Agreed. It is fair to be critical of the Claypool deal, but the Roquan one is about as good as he could have done.


Bradley Chubb and Roquan Smith were both traded at the deadline.

- Both top 10 picks in the 2018 draft
- Both on expiring contracts
- Chubb was a two time pro bowler, Roquan 1 probowl, 2 time 2nd team all pro
- Chubb netted a late first round pick, Roquan a late 2nd round pick.

Roquan certainly was more valuable to the Ravens than Chubb was to the Dolphins, yet Chubb returned alot more. I do agree you had to get something for Roquan, but is it really "as good as he could have done" ? It seems he should have got more.


Roquan didn't sniff a pro bowl until last season. We see Will Anderson as being a Parsons/Chubb type of pass rusher. We don't see him as a Roquan. Chubb is a pass rusher, and Roquan isn't. Chubb has been a great player. Roquan has been a good player.

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Chubb was a bum for the Dolphins while Roquan carried the Lamar-Less Ravens into the playoffs.


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Chubb was a bum for the Dolphins while Roquan carried the Lamar-Less Ravens into the playoffs.


Roquan had more tackles and sacks with the Bears. He'll probably be 300 lbs before the ink dries. Not even you would have given up a #1 for Roquan.

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He's a much better in a 3-4 than a 4-3. And he was great for the Ravens, that's why they gave him that paper.


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Nas wrote:
Caller Bob wrote:
RFDC wrote:
Frank Coztansa wrote:
Caller Bob wrote:
RFDC wrote:
Look on bright side Bob, you can begin working on your first post after they make the trade. I am sure you will be unhappy with it. So make sure it is an epic post. None of this weak shit.


I just pray he doesn't get taking behind the woodshed like on the Claypool and Roquan deals.
Poles got a second rounder for a guy that wasn't going to stay here because the Bears weren't going to pay him.

Poles' options for Roquan Smith were;
-Let him walk and get nothing
-Franchise him and pay him ~$20mil for the 2023 season
-Trade him

You can bash Poles for a number of things. Saying he got taken to the woodshed in the Roquan deal is not only false, its stupid.

Agreed. It is fair to be critical of the Claypool deal, but the Roquan one is about as good as he could have done.


Bradley Chubb and Roquan Smith were both traded at the deadline.

- Both top 10 picks in the 2018 draft
- Both on expiring contracts
- Chubb was a two time pro bowler, Roquan 1 probowl, 2 time 2nd team all pro
- Chubb netted a late first round pick, Roquan a late 2nd round pick.

Roquan certainly was more valuable to the Ravens than Chubb was to the Dolphins, yet Chubb returned alot more. I do agree you had to get something for Roquan, but is it really "as good as he could have done" ? It seems he should have got more.


Roquan didn't sniff a pro bowl until last season. We see Will Anderson as being a Parsons/Chubb type of pass rusher. We don't see him as a Roquan. Chubb is a pass rusher, and Roquan isn't. Chubb has been a great player. Roquan has been a good player.



I think that Smith is more than just a "good player". I admire the guy for laying it all on the line and betting on himself and winning a big contract. On a different and better team, he'd have made the pro bowl the last three years

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trade down below 4 and I'm eyeing Tyree Wilson from Texas Tech and moving him to 3T. Maybe move him outside on passing downs.

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Caller Bob wrote:
RFDC wrote:
Frank Coztansa wrote:
Caller Bob wrote:
RFDC wrote:
Look on bright side Bob, you can begin working on your first post after they make the trade. I am sure you will be unhappy with it. So make sure it is an epic post. None of this weak shit.


I just pray he doesn't get taking behind the woodshed like on the Claypool and Roquan deals.
Poles got a second rounder for a guy that wasn't going to stay here because the Bears weren't going to pay him.

Poles' options for Roquan Smith were;
-Let him walk and get nothing
-Franchise him and pay him ~$20mil for the 2023 season
-Trade him

You can bash Poles for a number of things. Saying he got taken to the woodshed in the Roquan deal is not only false, its stupid.

Agreed. It is fair to be critical of the Claypool deal, but the Roquan one is about as good as he could have done.


Bradley Chubb and Roquan Smith were both traded at the deadline.

- Both top 10 picks in the 2018 draft
- Both on expiring contracts
- Chubb was a two time pro bowler, Roquan 1 probowl, 2 time 2nd team all pro
- Chubb netted a late first round pick, Roquan a late 2nd round pick.

Roquan certainly was more valuable to the Ravens than Chubb was to the Dolphins, yet Chubb returned alot more. I do agree you had to get something for Roquan, but is it really "as good as he could have done" ? It seems he should have got more.


Hope this helps Bob.

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Seacrest wrote:
Caller Bob wrote:
RFDC wrote:
Frank Coztansa wrote:
Caller Bob wrote:
RFDC wrote:
Look on bright side Bob, you can begin working on your first post after they make the trade. I am sure you will be unhappy with it. So make sure it is an epic post. None of this weak shit.


I just pray he doesn't get taking behind the woodshed like on the Claypool and Roquan deals.
Poles got a second rounder for a guy that wasn't going to stay here because the Bears weren't going to pay him.

Poles' options for Roquan Smith were;
-Let him walk and get nothing
-Franchise him and pay him ~$20mil for the 2023 season
-Trade him

You can bash Poles for a number of things. Saying he got taken to the woodshed in the Roquan deal is not only false, its stupid.

Agreed. It is fair to be critical of the Claypool deal, but the Roquan one is about as good as he could have done.


Bradley Chubb and Roquan Smith were both traded at the deadline.

- Both top 10 picks in the 2018 draft
- Both on expiring contracts
- Chubb was a two time pro bowler, Roquan 1 probowl, 2 time 2nd team all pro
- Chubb netted a late first round pick, Roquan a late 2nd round pick.

Roquan certainly was more valuable to the Ravens than Chubb was to the Dolphins, yet Chubb returned alot more. I do agree you had to get something for Roquan, but is it really "as good as he could have done" ? It seems he should have got more.


Hope this helps Bob.

https://overthecap.com/positional-value-in-the-nfl


Then why did both sign nearly identical extensions with their respective teams?


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Seacrest wrote:
Caller Bob wrote:
RFDC wrote:
Frank Coztansa wrote:
Caller Bob wrote:
RFDC wrote:
Look on bright side Bob, you can begin working on your first post after they make the trade. I am sure you will be unhappy with it. So make sure it is an epic post. None of this weak shit.


I just pray he doesn't get taking behind the woodshed like on the Claypool and Roquan deals.
Poles got a second rounder for a guy that wasn't going to stay here because the Bears weren't going to pay him.

Poles' options for Roquan Smith were;
-Let him walk and get nothing
-Franchise him and pay him ~$20mil for the 2023 season
-Trade him

You can bash Poles for a number of things. Saying he got taken to the woodshed in the Roquan deal is not only false, its stupid.

Agreed. It is fair to be critical of the Claypool deal, but the Roquan one is about as good as he could have done.


Bradley Chubb and Roquan Smith were both traded at the deadline.

- Both top 10 picks in the 2018 draft
- Both on expiring contracts
- Chubb was a two time pro bowler, Roquan 1 probowl, 2 time 2nd team all pro
- Chubb netted a late first round pick, Roquan a late 2nd round pick.

Roquan certainly was more valuable to the Ravens than Chubb was to the Dolphins, yet Chubb returned alot more. I do agree you had to get something for Roquan, but is it really "as good as he could have done" ? It seems he should have got more.


Hope this helps Bob.

https://overthecap.com/positional-value-in-the-nfl

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Then why did both sign nearly identical extensions with their respective teams?


Ask Chubb's agent

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trade down below 4 and I'm eyeing Tyree Wilson from Texas Tech and moving him to 3T. Maybe move him outside on passing downs.


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