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so state LE/state cops and state legislatures have a say as to what's kosher on interstates through their jurisdictions? That seems like recipe for a hold-out luddite state like Nebraska or Kansas or Kentucky or wherever to throw a monkey wrench in the process of rolling these technologies out nationally. you'd think the feds would pull rank on the states for the interstate highways at least and have exclusive say to make rules for running trucks on interstates.

Not quite. USDOT sets the standards for inspecting trucks, and many of the regulations and laws for interstate trucks are federal. But there aren't federal cops for this stuff, so USDOT pays states to do it, covering some salaries and technology. There is an association of state officials which works with USDOT and the individual states to set standards so that the actual safety inspection or truck weighing follows the same checklist everywhere.

But the ability to allow trucks to operate driverless on a highway is still a state by state decision until Congress makes law otherwise. The reality is that weather knocks out a bunch of Western states where it would make sense, like Wyoming. At this point it is primarily states along I-10 which are moving forward, although a couple of states do allow testing because they are trying to attract tech jobs to their states.

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so state LE/state cops and state legislatures have a say as to what's kosher on interstates through their jurisdictions? That seems like recipe for a hold-out luddite state like Nebraska or Kansas or Kentucky or wherever to throw a monkey wrench in the process of rolling these technologies out nationally. you'd think the feds would pull rank on the states for the interstate highways at least and have exclusive say to make rules for running trucks on interstates.

Not quite. USDOT sets the standards for inspecting trucks, and many of the regulations and laws for interstate trucks are federal. But there aren't federal cops for this stuff, so USDOT pays states to do it, covering some salaries and technology. There is an association of state officials which works with USDOT and the individual states to set standards so that the actual safety inspection or truck weighing follows the same checklist everywhere.

But the ability to allow trucks to operate driverless on a highway is still a state by state decision until Congress makes law otherwise. The reality is that weather knocks out a bunch of Western states where it would make sense, like Wyoming. At this point it is primarily states along I-10 which are moving forward, although a couple of states do allow testing because they are trying to attract tech jobs to their states.

Driverless trucks also will likely require dedicated lanes. Maybe in the big cities we can get rid of the commuter rails for them.

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This went completely off the rails so I'll ask again... you, your kids, grandkids whatever... I need to hire a couple people. The wages are good. The benefits are good. It's a union job.

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This went completely off the rails so I'll ask again... you, your kids, grandkids whatever... I need to hire a couple people. The wages are good. The benefits are good. It's a union job.


Prior experience a must?

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This went completely off the rails so I'll ask again... you, your kids, grandkids whatever... I need to hire a couple people. The wages are good. The benefits are good. It's a union job.


Prior experience a must?

Preferred but we will train on the job if the candidate is mechanically inclined and has a decent work ethic.

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This went completely off the rails so I'll ask again... you, your kids, grandkids whatever... I need to hire a couple people. The wages are good. The benefits are good. It's a union job.

You and ltg had the beginnings of a decent conversation few weeks back about these jobs that never really got finished . The availability of these jobs to all the disadvantaged young adults on the south and west sides who say there are no jobs for them when jobs like this are plentiful, but I guess you have to have the willingness to do them as well.

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Preferred but we will train on the job if the candidate is mechanically inclined and has a decent work ethic.


Work ethic and doing things correctly seems to be difficult for a lot of people.


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Preferred but we will train on the job if the candidate is mechanically inclined and has a decent work ethic.


Work ethic and doing things correctly seems to be difficult for a lot of people.

Yeah im seeing that is an issue.

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This went completely off the rails so I'll ask again... you, your kids, grandkids whatever... I need to hire a couple people. The wages are good. The benefits are good. It's a union job.

Then call the hall you cheap fuck and get a journeyman.

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This went completely off the rails so I'll ask again... you, your kids, grandkids whatever... I need a couple people. The wages are good...

You can only set up so many grooming jokes in one post.

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This went completely off the rails so I'll ask again... you, your kids, grandkids whatever... I need to hire a couple people. The wages are good. The benefits are good. It's a union job.

Then call the hall you cheap fuck and get a journeyman.

Yeah because journeymen are just sitting around waiting for jobs to pop up.

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This went completely off the rails so I'll ask again... you, your kids, grandkids whatever... I need to hire a couple people. The wages are good. The benefits are good. It's a union job.

Then call the hall you cheap fuck and get a journeyman.

Yeah because journeymen are just sitting around waiting for jobs to pop up.

597 your local?

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This went completely off the rails so I'll ask again... you, your kids, grandkids whatever... I need to hire a couple people. The wages are good. The benefits are good. It's a union job.

Then call the hall you cheap fuck and get a journeyman.

Yeah because journeymen are just sitting around waiting for jobs to pop up.

597 your local?

Is that the racist one?

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I don't live near McHenry and I'm also lazy. Should I apply?

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This went completely off the rails so I'll ask again... you, your kids, grandkids whatever... I need to hire a couple people. The wages are good. The benefits are good. It's a union job.

Then call the hall you cheap fuck and get a journeyman.

Yeah because journeymen are just sitting around waiting for jobs to pop up.

597 your local?

Is that the racist one?

The union can send out an entry level apprentice, providing there are enough journeymen at the shop. Say there isn't. Then hire a kid off the street and if he works out, put him in the program in 6 months.

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This went completely off the rails so I'll ask again... you, your kids, grandkids whatever... I need to hire a couple people. The wages are good. The benefits are good. It's a union job.


Prior experience a must?

Preferred but we will train on the job if the candidate is mechanically inclined and has a decent work ethic.


I really hate to generalize, but are there 20-somethings that have experienced anything mechanical?


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This went completely off the rails so I'll ask again... you, your kids, grandkids whatever... I need to hire a couple people. The wages are good. The benefits are good. It's a union job.

Then call the hall you cheap fuck and get a journeyman.

Yeah because journeymen are just sitting around waiting for jobs to pop up.

597 your local?

Yes.

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This went completely off the rails so I'll ask again... you, your kids, grandkids whatever... I need to hire a couple people. The wages are good. The benefits are good. It's a union job.

Then call the hall you cheap fuck and get a journeyman.

Yeah because journeymen are just sitting around waiting for jobs to pop up.

597 your local?

Is that the racist one?

The union can send out an entry level apprentice, providing there are enough journeymen at the shop. Say there isn't. Then hire a kid off the street and if he works out, put him in the program in 6 months.

It's just that easy, huh?

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This went completely off the rails so I'll ask again... you, your kids, grandkids whatever... I need to hire a couple people. The wages are good. The benefits are good. It's a union job.


Prior experience a must?

Preferred but we will train on the job if the candidate is mechanically inclined and has a decent work ethic.


I really hate to generalize, but are there 20-somethings that have experienced anything mechanical?

Increasingly, no. That's why I'm reaching out everywhere I can to see if I can find someone who needs a career change or maybe someone who has a kid that needs a career.

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597 your local?

Is that the racist one?
Aren't they all "racist?" Just asking a question.

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have you looked into working with local schools for an internship program? Whether you're looking for future employees or just trying to groom future sexual partners, an internship program starting in high school can give you a leg up in the process.


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The union can send out an entry level apprentice, providing there are enough journeymen at the shop. Say there isn't. Then hire a kid off the street and if he works out, put him in the program in 6 months.

It's just that easy, huh?

You have enough journeymen to hire two union entry level apprentices or not? If you do, Local 597 is there for you. If not, then you do what you're doing. Let's stop beating around the bush. It's a legit loophole. The union will take a dues paying member you hire off the street. They don't have much choice. It's just I sense some crocodile tears about how you can't find anybody. Sure you can.

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The union can send out an entry level apprentice, providing there are enough journeymen at the shop. Say there isn't. Then hire a kid off the street and if he works out, put him in the program in 6 months.

It's just that easy, huh?

You have enough journeymen to hire two union entry level apprentices or not? If you do, Local 597 is there for you. If not, then you do what you're doing. Let's stop beating around the bush. It's a legit loophole. The union will take a dues paying member you hire off the street. They don't have much choice. It's just I sense some crocodile tears about how you can't find anybody. Sure you can.

I don't buy that. This is one job market that would appear to be steady in demand. I would guess there's not a whole lot of Journeyman HVAC techs sitting on the bench...I'd guess they're already out working.

Had you posted this 18 months ago, my son (who is now almost 23) would have been good candidate. He's hell bent on not going to school and has since found a good job doing Warehouse work...and quite happy with it.

I can see if my son knows anyone that would fit.

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companies can be just as dumb as employess. i was once rejected for a management position because i didn't have union experience, or history with refrigerant. i worked the electrical union for 10 years, and then managed 4 years in a food processing plant that had 150 and 350 ton glycol chillers :lol:

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