It is currently Thu Nov 21, 2024 11:55 am

All times are UTC - 6 hours [ DST ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 75 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3  Next
Author Message
 Post subject: Re: Writer's strike
PostPosted: Fri Jul 14, 2023 4:40 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sat Mar 24, 2018 9:19 pm
Posts: 31603
pizza_Place: What??
polster wrote:
Ron Perlman's take on a studio executive who said:
"The endgame is to allow things to drag on until union members start losing their houses"


Old school.

_________________
Wattabout Kodak Black?


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Writer's strike
PostPosted: Fri Jul 14, 2023 4:47 pm 
Offline
100000 CLUB
User avatar

Joined: Tue Mar 29, 2005 8:06 pm
Posts: 81466
pizza_Place: 773-684-2222
conns7901 wrote:
Nas wrote:
More fake AI hysteria.


You will still be saying this as the computers are launching nukes all over the world in a few years.


They're not as smart as you believe, the technology isn't as advanced as you believe, and it has blind spots that toddlers don't have.

_________________
Be well

GO BEARS!!!


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Writer's strike
PostPosted: Fri Jul 14, 2023 5:30 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Jun 27, 2006 11:28 am
Posts: 23804
Location: Boofoo Zoo
pizza_Place: Chuck E Cheese
Nas wrote:
conns7901 wrote:
Nas wrote:
More fake AI hysteria.


You will still be saying this as the computers are launching nukes all over the world in a few years.


They're not as smart as you believe, the technology isn't as advanced as you believe, and it has blind spots that toddlers don't have.


But it’s cheaper, so fuck it, they’re going to use it, quality be damned.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Writer's strike
PostPosted: Fri Jul 14, 2023 5:39 pm 
Offline
100000 CLUB
User avatar

Joined: Tue Mar 29, 2005 8:06 pm
Posts: 81466
pizza_Place: 773-684-2222
KDdidit wrote:
Nas wrote:
conns7901 wrote:
Nas wrote:
More fake AI hysteria.


You will still be saying this as the computers are launching nukes all over the world in a few years.


They're not as smart as you believe, the technology isn't as advanced as you believe, and it has blind spots that toddlers don't have.


But it’s cheaper, so fuck it, they’re going to use it, quality be damned.


True. There will be some cool things that we'll see but it won't change the world any time soon.

_________________
Be well

GO BEARS!!!


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Writer's strike
PostPosted: Fri Jul 14, 2023 6:04 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sun Sep 18, 2005 8:22 pm
Posts: 24546
pizza_Place: It's gone
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

So scared of Hollywood millionaires

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZT8dKhuNy/

——

Looks like polster (Tommy mult #5 just this week) beat me to it.



Now if it was caller Bob after me I’d be fucking scared. The shit bobs done is like hardcore Satanic Hollywood shit from what I’ve heard


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Writer's strike
PostPosted: Fri Jul 14, 2023 10:25 pm 
Offline

Joined: Thu Apr 19, 2018 11:26 am
Posts: 14921
pizza_Place: Grazianos
Perlman is hardly the brightest on a string of dumb actors.

_________________
An Ode to the Texas man who shot an Antifa terrorist:

Oh, he might have went on livin'
But he made one fatal slip
When he tried to match the Ranger
With the big iron on his hip


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Writer's strike
PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2023 8:15 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sun Sep 18, 2005 8:22 pm
Posts: 24546
pizza_Place: It's gone
I watched a lot of Netflix this weekend. Caught up on a lot of interesting movies.

99/100 of these movies/shows were absolute shit. Things that looked funny weren't. Documentaries that looked interesting weren't.

Pretty much everything sucked and was a big letdown. I think the only show on netflix I liked was Ozarks. and that's not even that good.

So what are they striking for? to keep making shit?

----

btw Fran Drescher I learned lives in a $6million Malibu mansion :

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... nsion.html

This is their face for workers rights??? :lol:


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Writer's strike
PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2023 8:29 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Apr 14, 2014 10:45 am
Posts: 16812
pizza_Place: Salerno's
Papa John's and Domino's are testing AI order takers; v transparent that TMFANR people answering their phones: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALnPVybD9X8


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Writer's strike
PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2023 8:45 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Sep 18, 2020 8:05 pm
Posts: 23997
pizza_Place: Pizanos
Is there a summary of what these people want before they’ll return to work?

_________________
Peter Clavin wrote:
Because you are stupid, maybe read some books educate yourself.
Nardi wrote:
We walk, talk, and won't shit our pants


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Writer's strike
PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2023 10:05 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Aug 16, 2022 12:07 pm
Posts: 1945
pizza_Place: Roseangela's
This Ends in Antioch wrote:
Is there a summary of what these people want before they’ll return to work?
https://www.nytimes.com/article/actors-strike-why.html

Not really in depth, but a start. Streaming killed their income and cost jobs.

_________________
Warren Newson wrote:
I like black prostitutes from the 70's


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Writer's strike
PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2023 10:06 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Aug 16, 2022 12:07 pm
Posts: 1945
pizza_Place: Roseangela's
HawaiiYou wrote:
Looks like polster (Tommy mult #5 just this week) beat me to it.

Honestly, that one is not mine!

_________________
Warren Newson wrote:
I like black prostitutes from the 70's


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Writer's strike
PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2023 10:14 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Sep 18, 2020 8:05 pm
Posts: 23997
pizza_Place: Pizanos
Thomas-Sox-WorldSeries wrote:
This Ends in Antioch wrote:
Is there a summary of what these people want before they’ll return to work?
https://www.nytimes.com/article/actors-strike-why.html

Not really in depth, but a start. Streaming killed their income and cost jobs.

This kind of thing but real life?
Image

_________________
Peter Clavin wrote:
Because you are stupid, maybe read some books educate yourself.
Nardi wrote:
We walk, talk, and won't shit our pants


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Writer's strike
PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2023 7:09 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Feb 17, 2005 2:35 pm
Posts: 82200
the public ALWAYS seems inclined to back the interests of the corporation, pointing out the little flaws of the striker, like crabs pulling each other down in a barrel.

_________________
O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Writer's strike
PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2023 7:10 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Sep 07, 2016 3:07 pm
Posts: 7929
Location: A large oak tree.
pizza_Place: Nowhere
Thomas-Sox-WorldSeries wrote:
HawaiiYou wrote:
Looks like polster (Tommy mult #5 just this week) beat me to it.

Honestly, that one is not mine!



I'm just glad you finanlly have food a way not to misplace all of your passwords. I'm assuming you just went with "She'sADish" and then add 1-83 to cover all of your multitude of mults.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Writer's strike
PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2023 7:12 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jun 21, 2006 6:57 pm
Posts: 92031
Location: To the left of my post
good dolphin wrote:
the public ALWAYS seems inclined to back the interests of the corporation, pointing out the little flaws of the striker, like crabs pulling each other down in a barrel.

The fact is that in most union negotiations both sides end up being pretty unreasonable. That's kind of the point though. There are a lot of people that think you should support the union no matter what they want too.

_________________
You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Writer's strike
PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2023 7:14 am 
Offline
100000 CLUB
User avatar

Joined: Tue Mar 29, 2005 8:06 pm
Posts: 81466
pizza_Place: 773-684-2222
good dolphin wrote:
the public ALWAYS seems inclined to back the interests of the corporation, pointing out the little flaws of the striker, like crabs pulling each other down in a barrel.


We've been conditioned.

_________________
Be well

GO BEARS!!!


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Writer's strike
PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2023 7:14 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Feb 17, 2005 2:35 pm
Posts: 82200
and I know the studio's aren't making the kind of money they were used to

Start by trimming the salaries of no talent executives who greenlight horrible stories papered over with expensive CGI that end up tanking. Tom Cruise is worth every penny he gets.

_________________
O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Writer's strike
PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2023 7:18 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Sep 18, 2020 8:05 pm
Posts: 23997
pizza_Place: Pizanos
good dolphin wrote:
and I know the studio's aren't making the kind of money they were used to

Start by trimming the salaries of no talent executives who greenlight horrible stories papered over with expensive CGI that end up tanking. Tom Cruise is worth every penny he gets.

But the people who wrote those horrible stories want more money.

_________________
Peter Clavin wrote:
Because you are stupid, maybe read some books educate yourself.
Nardi wrote:
We walk, talk, and won't shit our pants


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Writer's strike
PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2023 8:33 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sat Mar 24, 2018 9:19 pm
Posts: 31603
pizza_Place: What??
Writing had a nice run from around the mid-70's to to early 2010's. It was mostly shit before and after those dates. Shakespeare had a nice run. Holy Bible wasn't exactly a page turner.

_________________
Wattabout Kodak Black?


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Writer's strike
PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2023 8:41 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Nov 01, 2006 1:10 pm
Posts: 32067
pizza_Place: Milano's
good dolphin wrote:
and I know the studio's aren't making the kind of money they were used to

Start by trimming the salaries of no talent executives who greenlight horrible stories papered over with expensive CGI that end up tanking. Tom Cruise is worth every penny he gets.


Tom Cruise seems intent on killing himself in a movie set accident


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Writer's strike
PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2023 8:42 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Feb 17, 2005 2:35 pm
Posts: 82200
This Ends in Antioch wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
and I know the studio's aren't making the kind of money they were used to

Start by trimming the salaries of no talent executives who greenlight horrible stories papered over with expensive CGI that end up tanking. Tom Cruise is worth every penny he gets.

But the people who wrote those horrible stories want more money.


A lot of these studio movies, the executive office tells the writer what they want and to build a script around it

_________________
O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Writer's strike
PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2023 8:43 am 
Offline
100000 CLUB
User avatar

Joined: Tue Mar 29, 2005 8:06 pm
Posts: 81466
pizza_Place: 773-684-2222
Bagels wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
and I know the studio's aren't making the kind of money they were used to

Start by trimming the salaries of no talent executives who greenlight horrible stories papered over with expensive CGI that end up tanking. Tom Cruise is worth every penny he gets.


Tom Cruise seems intent on killing himself in a movie set accident


Yep! I appreciate the dedication to his craft and the pushing of the envelope. He has that it gene.

_________________
Be well

GO BEARS!!!


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Writer's strike
PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2023 8:43 am 
Offline
100000 CLUB
User avatar

Joined: Tue Mar 29, 2005 8:06 pm
Posts: 81466
pizza_Place: 773-684-2222
good dolphin wrote:
This Ends in Antioch wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
and I know the studio's aren't making the kind of money they were used to

Start by trimming the salaries of no talent executives who greenlight horrible stories papered over with expensive CGI that end up tanking. Tom Cruise is worth every penny he gets.

But the people who wrote those horrible stories want more money.


A lot of these studio movies, the executive office tells the writer what they want and to build a script around it


The future of AI

_________________
Be well

GO BEARS!!!


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Writer's strike
PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2023 8:50 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Aug 16, 2022 12:07 pm
Posts: 1945
pizza_Place: Roseangela's
good dolphin wrote:
This Ends in Antioch wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
and I know the studio's aren't making the kind of money they were used to

Start by trimming the salaries of no talent executives who greenlight horrible stories papered over with expensive CGI that end up tanking. Tom Cruise is worth every penny he gets.

But the people who wrote those horrible stories want more money.


A lot of these studio movies, the executive office tells the writer what they want and to build a script around it

^

Stole my comment. W_Z would know more, but apparently this is a real thing.

_________________
Warren Newson wrote:
I like black prostitutes from the 70's


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Writer's strike
PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2023 9:47 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sun Sep 18, 2005 8:22 pm
Posts: 24546
pizza_Place: It's gone
Agree about studio execs and those under them being worthless.

I read that a lot of the underlings for execs are due to Hollywood nepotism. They don’t know anything about their roles and just are there because of their name. My source is tiktok but there are some good vids expressing this there.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Writer's strike
PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2023 6:41 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jul 13, 2006 1:25 pm
Posts: 27055
its very simple. they make shit products and people pay them for it. now they can make shit products with reduced cost, and people will pay them for it. if they dont need writers, why should they have them? socialism?

_________________
the world will always the world. your entire existence is defined by your response.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Writer's strike
PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2023 8:22 am 
Offline
1000 CLUB
User avatar

Joined: Fri Jul 15, 2005 2:14 pm
Posts: 1871
pizza_Place: Colombo's
The thousands of jobs streaming created are gone and not coming back. The studios lost too much money. The studios are using the strike to get out of their bad production deals. They were already cancelling shows and pulling shows from streaming to avoid residuals before the strike. The studios aren't making money they're losing billions.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Writer's strike
PostPosted: Thu Jul 20, 2023 8:17 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Apr 14, 2014 10:45 am
Posts: 16812
pizza_Place: Salerno's
Music industry got disrupted first by Hotline/napsters/torrents et al and then the spotify model--music industry had to adjust in order to survive. Music industry no longer anywhere near the crazy profitable, hookers-and-blow-in-limousines-for-all industry it used to be.

Radio biz got disrupted....by ads. Too many fucking ads drove people away from over the air radio. It didn't matter when easily accessible alternatives were either nonexistent or hyper-niche, radio stations could abuse their listeners with 10+ minutes of dick-pill ads per 30 minutes of content. Once easily accessible alternatives to traditional radio landed in everyone's pocket via the smartphone, buh-bye legacy radio business model.

Newspaper business peaked in terms of revenue and profitability around 2005-2006--which many newspaper execs in the 2007-2013 time-frame used to hold onto those 2006 profit-loss statements as proof their business model could still work. They were wrong, see ya traditional dead-trees newspapers--your web presences were DOA: Digital newspapers got played by a hooker website that also hosted free classifieds.

So why would the movie-tv industry escape the same fate as every other legacy media industry.

It took longer for consumers to give up their cable subscriptions and stop going out to movies than to stop buying CDs/print newspapers/listening to the radio as a habit on their commute; but that was almost entirely due to the differential in experience between watching Sopranos or the latest Harry Potter/Star Wars film in a theater or on your cable-satellite fed TV in 2005 and trying to watch the same video content on a circa 2005 desktop/laptop or nonexistent at that time smart phone device (maybe Blackberry was around) fed by a splotchy pipe with video content being served up in a non-optimal way.

Since 2005, smart phones with high speed 4/5 G data access are in everyone's pocket. Desktops/laptops/tablets are better able to render high-res video. And maybe most important, the delivery of that high-res video content over a data connection has become non-splotchy thanks in part to improvements in hardware and the networks delivering that content but also by Netflix (and others followed this Netflix model) co-locating content servers at ISPs to reduce the distance between the content and the ultimate consumer of the content's device. Early netflix with their mass-mailed dvd's of otherwise network deliverable digital content was a prime example of the CompSci 101 80's observation:

Image

Only around 2010? 2011? 2013? did Tannenbaum's observation no longer hold true and over the network delivery and consumption of content could compete with and even surpass tapes/dvds or even Blu-rays--the video quality of streaming content now in 2023 competes with and even exceeds in quality our old bluray discs we have lying around the house--mostly because of better conversion/compression algorithms today vs when we bought those blurays but also for all of the improvements noted supra.


tl;dr: inevitable that TV-film would suffer the same fate as radio/music/print media


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Writer's strike
PostPosted: Thu Jul 20, 2023 9:07 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Nov 02, 2018 12:02 pm
Posts: 2190
Location: What are you, my mother?
pizza_Place: D'Agostino's
I think AI would do a better job of whatever it is studio execs do, compared to the creative part (be it good or bad).


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Writer's strike
PostPosted: Thu Jul 20, 2023 9:15 am 
Offline
100000 CLUB
User avatar

Joined: Tue Mar 29, 2005 8:06 pm
Posts: 81466
pizza_Place: 773-684-2222
What happened to the bootleg movie industry? I liked to go into the barbershop or local Chinese restaurant and haggle over the cost of illegal DVDs.

_________________
Be well

GO BEARS!!!


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 75 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3  Next

All times are UTC - 6 hours [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: a retard and 18 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group