I think that’s a lottery ticket strategy. Taking the guy perceived as the best talent first overall is usually a good choice.

There are some rare exceptions, but generally the guys with that profile have solid careers.

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Today in dumb ex-players commenting on the Bears QB situation…

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Where’d you play your ball?

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It’s pretty obvious that Urlacher is racist.

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Proud member of the white guy grievance committee

It aint the six minutes. Its what happens in those six minutes.

at the time there was a fairly large portion of draft people who thought Ryan Leaf should be the number one pick over Peyton Manning.

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Proud member of the white guy grievance committee

It aint the six minutes. Its what happens in those six minutes.

Leaf was preferred over Manning by most GMs

Maybe, but only one team had to actually make the decision and they took Manning.

It’s easy to say stuff when there’s no responsibility behind it. I do it every day. I’m doing it constantly in this thread. It’s fun.

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Young-Stroud
Trubustky/Mahomes
Mayfield/Allen
Pickett/Purdy
Vick/Brees
Alex Smith/ Rodgers


Not uncommon at all

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The point isn’t that the 1/1 will definitively be the best player chosen, it’s that a 1/1 QB very rarely has a bad career.

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I would have drafted Leaf over Manning. He looked more athletic.

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Hawaii (fuck) You

Fields should have been a 1/1. He's the only player in his draft that even seems like a star.

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the world will always the world. your entire existence is defined by your response.

Caleb scares the shit out of me due to the ND game and his size. But I draft him. If you pass, and he becomes Mahomes light, you just blew the most obvious pick in history. You miss, we say, “dat Bears.”

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Hawaii (fuck) You

I would draft him and resign fields. Then if it fails absolutely nobody could say dat bears

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the world will always the world. your entire existence is defined by your response.

There's low risk if you replace Fields with Williams and then Williams proceeds to suck. Again, we're talking about the 23rd rated passer in the league. Per ESPN, Fields is actually underperforming a replacement- level QB. To be fair to Fields, he's not massively underperforming relative to a replacement level QB, but he's either just as good as a replacement level QB or slightly worse. Either way you put it, the response if Fields were to go this off-season should be "eh", followed by a shrug. The production is replaceable.

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T.rubisky is a bust: check
Ben Simmons is a liability: check
The Fields Cult is dumb: double check

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The risk is, that pick would get a haul including MHJ.

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Hawaii (fuck) You

Chicken and egg thing though because what good is MJH if a barely replacement level QB is throwing to him.

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T.rubisky is a bust: check
Ben Simmons is a liability: check
The Fields Cult is dumb: double check

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Vegan, I would like you listen to Goff on Parkins’ show on Friday. Then I want you to tell me the flawed logic with Goff’s main arguments.


I know the answer already but would like another similar thinker to confirm.

Please.

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Hawaii (fuck) You

Moore, Kmet, and MJH, so tantalizing.

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Hawaii (fuck) You

The pick is worth a haul only because there is a guy (maybe two) widely thought to have elite potential. Passing on that guy to surround a proven below average passer with another couple skill guys is the roster construction version of this:

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Gut reaction. Who is the most elusive QB in the NFL ?

Rest my case

#calebisabitch

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the world will always the world. your entire existence is defined by your response.

Actually I think it would be like Neverland, with a fiat parked in the driveway

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the world will always the world. your entire existence is defined by your response.

Because you have Fields' projected 2024 and 2025 salary to get the new quarterback another lineman and another offensive skill player in free agency, and maybe some money left over.

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"When people want their version of the truth, they go find it, no matter how baseless their beliefs." -- Ken Rosenthal

The following is the only no brainer....trading down, once or twice, to get a 2025 #1 and a 2026 #1. Probably not possible but it IS a no brainer.

So you want to go into next season with a barely replacement level QB surrounded by guys whose skills he can't leverage because he doesn't know how to play QB?

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Kyrie Irving will never win anything as a team's alpha: check
T.rubisky is a bust: check
Ben Simmons is a liability: check
The Fields Cult is dumb: double check

2013 CSFMB ROY

Caleb taking them to the Super Bowl next season? I'm fine with building an obnoxiously good football team and then maybe a QB will show up. Worked in SF.

You haven't answered the question though: what is your reasoning for going into next year with an offense built around a replacement-level QB. If you want to say you want an elite QB because Justin isn't the answer but prefer to prioritize other positions first then that's a different argument.

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Kyrie Irving will never win anything as a team's alpha: check
T.rubisky is a bust: check
Ben Simmons is a liability: check
The Fields Cult is dumb: double check

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You don't think a downgraded #1 this year and a #1 in 2025 and 2026 is a no brainer?

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Well that assumes we'd get the specific haul you're talking about but generally speaking I am not optimistic about the success of a team led by someone who was outperformed by journeymen like Minshew and Dobbs. If Minshew is the starter going into next season with Moore on his right and MJH on his left, what would your expectations be? Now take those expectations for a Minshew-led team and downgrade them a level or two for a Fields-led team. Is that where you really want to be?

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Kyrie Irving will never win anything as a team's alpha: check
T.rubisky is a bust: check
Ben Simmons is a liability: check
The Fields Cult is dumb: double check

2013 CSFMB ROY

It’s not if Williams hits. I’m really not sure why everyone is so afraid of the Bears giving up a below average QB in Fields to take another swing at a QB that could be the answer in Williams. How long do you plan on waiting and when do you realistically think they’ll be in this position again to have their choice of the next big QB coming out?


So many of you are acting like they can make this pick any year they want, that’s not how it works. That’s not how any of this works.

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If the rule you followed lead you to this, of what use was the rule?

I made essentially the same point on the last page. The Bears have already began to greatly improve this roster over the last couple years -and will still be in a great position to improve it more this year thru the draft and feee agency while also adding the best QB in the draft.


They’re literally playing with house money and people are like ‘nah, we’re good’


It makes no sense.

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If the rule you followed lead you to this, of what use was the rule?