If it's between Daniels and Fields I'm going with option C.

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I just believe he has the same issues Fields does, but he lacks the dynamic playmaking ability. I don't think straight line speed works for a QB in the NFL, especially when you are under 200 lbs.

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I believe he is a much better passer than you consider him, we will see. I would not take him over your Guy but he is my 2nd option.

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Warner likes Daniels over Maye at #2. He was more complimentary of Penix than Maye. Simms, Orvlosky, and Warner seem to be down on Maye.

https://youtu.be/aYtgZM5tquk?si=sFQjXBxWuYM4lRUK

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If healthy, I think this is the floor for C-Will:

198 passing yards a game
61.5 completion percentage
18 passing touchdowns
87 rating
57 QBR
6 wins

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Warner breaking down C-Will. Williams sounds like Justin Fields all over again; holds the ball way too long and will end up taking a lot of sacks at the next level where you're not playing against 19 year-olds with north-of-five forty times:










Mario Bro ALL-CAPS gets it:






If USC's offense was so bad last season, why was Miller Moss able to go up against a top 20 team/defense and smoke them like a pack of Parliament Lights? Throwing 6 touchdowns in the supposedly broken Riley Kingsbury offense on the way to trouncing the favored (USC +6.5) Cardinal College of Louisville.

These are all a notch above the career highs of Fields.

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Yeah, I made this point a couple months ago. The flaws that we all saw in Fields are also frequently cited in scouting reports on Williams--and that's a HUGE concern. From the little I've seen of Williams, it looks like he has a quicker release, is more accurate, reads defenses better than Fields and makes anticipatory throws more frequently, but I need to do a lot more research before I feel comfortable with him as a solid QB prospect.

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This guy tried to tackle Williams' time to throw problem.

https://www.dabearsblog.com/2024/all-ki ... e-to-throw

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Here's an example of Williams being Fields-like:



Williams is staring right at the receiver running the hitch-inside and there's an opening to lead the receiver into, not even a difficult throw. aim between the 2 defenders and let your guy take it on the run; which Warner calls anticipation but I don't think that's even anticipating a receiver breaking in or back or anything next-level. That's just staring at an easy completion and backing out of it.

So I think you're saying Fields' play in year three of his professional career resembled the play of a college sophomore. I agree - that's why his ass was traded and demoted.

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His career really took off when he started throwing to two first round picks

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aren't those the Huskies @USC from November? Williams would've been 22 year old Junior, iirc. Hard to tell from Warner's 2004 quality game tape upload.

yeah, Fields wasn't the answer. Usually teams don't go right back to the same flawed well and double-down on the same mistakes:

if caleb williams is a bust i will start watching granny porn

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at least he doesn't deny that C-Will takes a lot of sacks. If I understand what he's saying, Caleb Williams takes a lot of sacks because Caleb doesn't take easy, quick completions for a no-sweat 1st down. Instead, he backs out of those 1-2-release easy-peasy throws and runs around the backfield like Barry Sanders and then attempts a pass of greater difficulty until he either completes that or takes a sack:

Exactly. Williams is going to have to adjust to playing in the NFL. It will take some time. There is a reason that so many quarterbacks that end up elite struggle or are average as rookies.

If you only drafted quarterbacks with nothing to work on you'd never draft one.

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Fields first season regularly getting run-down from behind by 300+ pound d-linemen...different game.

Warner repeatedly notes he can't really evaluate Williams as a pocket-passer in that yt clip--Williams has so few in the pocket downfield attempts. It's either check-downs/screens/rpo's or if Williams goes downfield it's after running around the backfield for 5 seconds and Rex'ing it.

he's essentially comparing him to Aaron rather than Patrick. And I'll take that.

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TTT by itself is meaningless. I want to know if Williams TTT was high throwing down field or was it high completing short passes. If it was short passes then that is a problem.

Was he pressured during the long TTT or did he have a clean pocket?

Check the link out above.

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Williams throws a lot of short passes in that Warner breakdown.

Passes even where it looks like Williams could've run for a decent gain but throws it to a guy 7 yards away (sideways, along the line of scrimmage, not for a 7 yd gain) who is immediately tackled. It's not Williams best game; but then neither was that Utah game breakdown. So I dunno where the Williams good tape is at.

Kurt even mentioned having to dump a bunch of screen passes/check-downs from the video because there were so many.


Part of it is perspective: Warner isn't impressed by Williams skipping a read on an open receiver for a 7 to 10 yard gain early in the play to run around and make a hero ball throw downfield.

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Interesting football philosophy question about getting sacked on 3rd down.

You do realize nobody reads the paragraphs of nonsense you post?

"I think sacks are an overblown stat"

Sounds like a packers fan

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