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 Post subject: Re: Miller Moss Watch
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So you’re wrong


Not Really.

You start watching the bears this year?


I've watched the Bears for most of my life. I rarely read these threads however.
And the point is this. You were clearly drinking the Eberflus Kool Aid when you thought that they were improving. Thus it's disingenuous to place the blame on him now. You obviously roll with whichever way the wind blows.

So you can easily point me to where I said Flus should be launched 8 games into his career.

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 Post subject: Re: Miller Moss Watch
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This Ends in Antioch wrote:
The Doctor Of Style wrote:
This Ends in Antioch wrote:
The Doctor Of Style wrote:
This Ends in Antioch wrote:
So you’re wrong


Not Really.

You start watching the bears this year?


I've watched the Bears for most of my life. I rarely read these threads however.
And the point is this. You were clearly drinking the Eberflus Kool Aid when you thought that they were improving. Thus it's disingenuous to place the blame on him now. You obviously roll with whichever way the wind blows.

So you can easily point me to where I said Flus should be launched 8 games into his career.


I didn't say 8 games into his career. 8 games in this year. It's clear that I meant this season since all of my references were to this season.

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 Post subject: Re: Miller Moss Watch
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The Doctor Of Style wrote:
This Ends in Antioch wrote:
The Doctor Of Style wrote:
This Ends in Antioch wrote:
The Doctor Of Style wrote:
This Ends in Antioch wrote:
So you’re wrong


Not Really.

You start watching the bears this year?


I've watched the Bears for most of my life. I rarely read these threads however.
And the point is this. You were clearly drinking the Eberflus Kool Aid when you thought that they were improving. Thus it's disingenuous to place the blame on him now. You obviously roll with whichever way the wind blows.

So you can easily point me to where I said Flus should be launched 8 games into his career.


I didn't say 8 games into his career. 8 games in this year. It's clear that I meant this season since all of my references were to this season.

No, not at all clear. You can backtrack & capitulate or just say you were wrong.

Normally an easy decision.

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 Post subject: Re: Miller Moss Watch
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This Ends in Antioch wrote:
No, not at all clear. You can backtrack & capitulate or just say you were wrong.

Normally an easy decision.


Dude it ain't happening. So either you can drop it or not drop it. Either way my beat isn't changing and I'm done explaining.

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 Post subject: Re: Miller Moss Watch
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No, not at all clear. You can backtrack & capitulate or just say you were wrong.

Normally an easy decision.


Dude it ain't happening. So either you can drop it or not drop it. Either way my beat isn't changing and I'm done explaining.

Oh I know. You’re dug in on the idea that I wanted Flus fired 8 games into his career.

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 Post subject: Re: Miller Moss Watch
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This Ends in Antioch wrote:
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No, not at all clear. You can backtrack & capitulate or just say you were wrong.

Normally an easy decision.


Dude it ain't happening. So either you can drop it or not drop it. Either way my beat isn't changing and I'm done explaining.

Oh I know. You’re dug in on the idea that I wanted Flus fired 8 games into his career.


Here is your calling for Eberflus to be Fired this past Sunday. Which was clearly "8 Games In".
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Welp…

Fire Flus. Team has quit.

As such your apology is accepted.

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 Post subject: Re: Miller Moss Watch
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When was Flus hired?

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 Post subject: Re: Miller Moss Watch
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This Ends in Antioch wrote:
When was Flus hired?


Provide Evidence where I claimed that you called for it 8 games into his career? And I will provide evidence that I didn't. Deal?

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 Post subject: Re: Miller Moss Watch
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I'll leave the Kool Aid Drinking to guys like you. Guys who coincidentally, have already called for firing the coaches 8 games in.

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 Post subject: Re: Miller Moss Watch
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This Ends in Antioch wrote:
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I'll leave the Kool Aid Drinking to guys like you. Guys who coincidentally, have already called for firing the coaches 8 games in.


Everything in this post pertains to this season though.
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As a long time Bear fan I know "Huff" when I see it. Regardless of whatever I think of Justin Fields and his being the better player, if Caleb Williams could LEAD us to 12-5 and even an NFC 2nd Round Game I'm rolling. But since I don't think he can I'm not. I'll leave the Kool Aid Drinking to guys like you. Guys who coincidentally, have already called for firing the coaches 8 games in. Which is a Bears Fan staple by the way. They've done this same dance with each and every coach since Ditka.
I tried (As A Long Time Bears Fan) to provide the blueprint for you dudes during the off-season but you didn't want to listen. Trade the pick and shore up some of the gaps along the line and at the skill positions and you'd have been a surefire playoff team this year. Instead we've already taken to the time honored Nouvo Bears Fan tradition of speculating on who the next Bears coach will be halfway through the season. Which means that "WE" already believe that the season is over..What a waste

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K so not 8 games.

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 Post subject: Re: Miller Moss Watch
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It's sad how desperate you are on this.

Whatabout Miller Moss?
You bumped this thread in order to take the focus off of how shitty Caleb is playing as an NFL QB :lol: :lol:

I bumped this thread because Miller Moss is Extremely Pertinent and Relevant.

Well, until he gets benched.

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 Post subject: Re: Miller Moss Watch
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Brick wrote:
The Doctor Of Style wrote:
Brick wrote:
It's sad how desperate you are on this.

Whatabout Miller Moss?
You bumped this thread in order to take the focus off of how shitty Caleb is playing as an NFL QB :lol: :lol:

I bumped this thread because Miller Moss is Extremely Pertinent and Relevant.

Well, until he gets benched.


It's extremely "relevant" and "pertinent" to keep pointing this out then :lol: :lol:
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Is Miller Moss that good? Or is Caleb Williams that bad.

We'll see how Moss does in his first start in a true road-game today against Michigan. Wins over Louisville and LSU both neutral site games.


So Caleb Williams is worse than a bad QB?


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 Post subject: Re: Miller Moss Watch
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The Miller Moss point was a major L here. Williams clearly wasn't the problem at USC.

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 Post subject: Re: Miller Moss Watch
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The Miller Moss point was a major L here. Williams clearly wasn't the problem at USC.



It's clear by their record from last year that Caleb wasn't the solution either. It's also "clear" that USC is in a much better conference this year than Caleb played in last season too. And the fact that a guy whose likely to never be drafted could step in with Caleb's team and win a bowl game against a ranked team says quite a bit about Caleb. As does Caleb's record in a weaker conference.

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 Post subject: Re: Miller Moss Watch
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It can't be Extremely Pertinent and Relevant only when it says what you want it to say.

It was a bad point from the start but you chose to make the bad point and it backfired.

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 Post subject: Re: Miller Moss Watch
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It can't be Extremely Pertinent and Relevant only when it says what you want it to say.

It was a bad point from the start but you chose to make the bad point and it backfired.


I know Bricksonian Logic is sort of your thing, but no one ever stated that Miller Moss was good or better than Caleb. In fact this thread was started to demonstrate just how bad Caleb is. USC inserted the undrafted backup into the lineup and there was very little drop-off. Thus what it does it say about Caleb? Just Asking A Question

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 Post subject: Re: Miller Moss Watch
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Nah there are a number of top flight College QBs that played for crappy programs but still played well against Good teams whether their teams won or loss. He looked bad against better competition and his numbers reflect it. Miller Moss, who isn't an NFL player and doesn't have much talent around him, looked better against a damn good Michigan defense than Caleb Williams looked against better defenses. Not that he played great, it's just that he didn't stink.


I get you have to walk this back but it's crystal clear that you were going to argue that Miller Moss succeeding at USC meant that Williams wasn't the reason they were good. That just backfired spectacularly.

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Nah there are a number of top flight College QBs that played for crappy programs but still played well against Good teams whether their teams won or loss. He looked bad against better competition and his numbers reflect it. Miller Moss, who isn't an NFL player and doesn't have much talent around him, looked better against a damn good Michigan defense than Caleb Williams looked against better defenses. Not that he played great, it's just that he didn't stink.


I get you have to walk this back but it's crystal clear that you were going to argue that Miller Moss succeeding at USC meant that Williams wasn't the reason they were good. That just backfired spectacularly.


I get that you are now trying to change the subject because the numbers strongly suggests that Caleb sucks, but it's not working

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 Post subject: Re: Miller Moss Watch
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I'm not changing the subject. Don't create a "Miller Moss Watch" thread and then be surprised when he gets benched under that watch and someone posts about it.

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 Post subject: Re: Miller Moss Watch
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I'm not changing the subject. Don't create a "Miller Moss Watch" thread and then be surprised when he gets benched under that watch and someone posts about it.


What was my basic argument about Miller Moss and cite evidence to support your claim and not your "interpretation". I'm not interested in that.

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 Post subject: Re: Miller Moss Watch
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I'm not changing the subject. Don't create a "Miller Moss Watch" thread and then be surprised when he gets benched under that watch and someone posts about it.


What was my basic argument about Miller Moss and cite evidence to support your claim and not your "interpretation". I'm not interested in that.
I'm good with simply ending the Miller Moss watch now that he's been benched and it's clear that Caleb Williams was a MUCH better QB at USC than he was.

If you want to claim you never had a basic argument about Miller Moss then I won't argue. It turns out this was just a thread where you wanted to track the progress of a USC quarterback.

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Brick wrote:
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I'm not changing the subject. Don't create a "Miller Moss Watch" thread and then be surprised when he gets benched under that watch and someone posts about it.


What was my basic argument about Miller Moss and cite evidence to support your claim and not your "interpretation". I'm not interested in that.
I'm good with simply ending the Miller Moss watch now that he's been benched and it's clear that Caleb Williams was a MUCH better QB at USC than he was.

If you want to claim you never had a basic argument about Miller Moss then I won't argue. It turns out this was just a thread where you wanted to track the progress of a USC quarterback.


I'm shocked that once again what you claimed to be the case was not actually the case. :lol: :lol:

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You created this thread for no reason. I'm convinced.

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You created this thread for no reason. I'm convinced.

Well that about wraps it up then. See ya!

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Sounds good. In the future, I'll keep in mind any post you make may have no point to it.

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Sounds good. In the future, I'll keep in mind any post you make may have no point to it.

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