Darkside wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
Well obviously we both knew he coached a great offense with the Rams when they went to those two SBs. My main point, and it was a semi-rhetorical question, was he had the benefit of having some of the best offensive personell in place in modern history, and has shown since then that he is neither innovative nor a "genuis" like some labeled him as when he left. Hes simply not a good coordinator, and I think his recent stints have shown that.
Come on FF. With your comment you're implying that this man can't coach. What it shows me is that he's enough of a coach that when playing decent players, he can use them properly and get them there. You really think that Warner is one of the best offensive personell in modern history????? I'll say good but I'm not ready to give him that yet. No, that team was well coached. The talent he had there was not unrecognized or underutilized.
As a Lions O-Co he won 7 games with the same basic team that went winless the following year.
This year the 49ers won 7 games after winning only 5 last year. I wouldn't say he CAN'T coach.
I guess we just disagree, and view his resume differently. I think Warner in his MVP years was one of the best QBs in the league, Faulk overall was the best player, and they had a terrific line and very good WRs. Once Vermeil left that Rams team wasnt the same, despite getting back to the SB. He was incredibly outcoached by Belichick in the SB. Once Lovie left, the defense went downhill fast as did the team because they clearly werent the same team offensively. Also from alot that I have read, the 49ers turnaround had much more to do with Singletary doing a great job instilling discipline in that locker room and getting the most out of guys than it did with Martz calling plays, although I didnt watch a single game and really wont pretend to know if he did a good job there, although 23rd in yards per game and 22nd in points per game doesnt really seem like the work of a great coordinator. I just think hes always been very overrated, and his Lions teams were not good at all offensively.