Peavy to the Sox?

Frank Coztansa · **Posted:** Thu May 21, 2009 11:54 am

Peavy Cy Young awards- 1

Javy Cy Young Votes (much less awards)- 0

Hatchetman · **Posted:** Thu May 21, 2009 11:59 am

the agent pretty much said this is a "no go" for now.

Keyser Soze · **Joined:** Wed Aug 02, 2006 5:15 pm **Posts:** 16923

RFDC wrote:

Keyser Soze wrote:

The money adds up fine, Shark. He's only making $8M this season

You sure it adds up fine? What about the 22 mil at the end of the deal? One of the things I have heard is he will not waive the no clause unless a team says they will take on that last year option.

If the Cubs did this, you would be the first one on here bitching about how they are taking on bad money again.

Wrong, but nice try.

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SHARK · **Posted:** Thu May 21, 2009 12:08 pm

I was listening to the Cubs' flagship, Newstalk 720 WGN, during a rain delay when the Padres visited Wrigley Field one day last week. Jim Memolo talked to his former WGN Radio teammate Andy Masur, now the radio voice of the Padres, and during the rain delay he felt Peavy would get dealt at some point. Now, Masur isn't so sure that Peavy's coming to the American League, and he's on right now with Zach Zaidman on the SCORE pinch hitting for Mike Murphy...

Ex-Media Guy · **Joined:** Wed Sep 17, 2008 9:40 am **Posts:** 790

Hatchetman wrote:

the agent pretty much said this is a "no go" for now.

Barry Axelrod wrote:

"If I had to make a bet on it, I would guess that Jake would say he's not ready to take that step today,'' Axelrod said. "But he wouldn't necessarily preclude it at any time in the future.

"We aren't hiding anything from anybody. Jake has a strong preference to stay in the National League. He has a comfort zone there, he's been successful, and he's won a Cy Young Award. I don't know that on May 21, that preference has eroded very much. From our point of view we may say, 'Let's give (the Padres) more time and see if a National League team might step up over the next six weeks.'

Keyser Soze · **Joined:** Wed Aug 02, 2006 5:15 pm **Posts:** 16923

I obviously hope Peavy approves the trade but if he doesn't Kenny will go out and make another trade. Kenny's not giving up on the season and contrary to what the 'experts' say this shows he's able to take on payroll and trade his top prospects.

Darkside · **Posted:** Thu May 21, 2009 12:25 pm

So what's the word at the Ohio Emissions office, EMG?

SHARK · **Posted:** Thu May 21, 2009 12:25 pm

The SCORE's David Schuster feels that Jake Peavy will NOT approve the proposed deal in which Aaron Poreda, Clay Richard & 2 unknowns would go to San Diego in exchange for Peavy. The ball's starting to fly out of U.S. Cellular Field if the last 2 games mean anything, but Schuster does believe that Peavy will eventually get dealt, likely to another National League team.

Jalapenos and More · **Posted:** Thu May 21, 2009 12:27 pm

Best 2 starters on WS champs this decade:

2008: Cole Hamels, Jamie Moyer
2007: Josh Beckett, Daisuke Matsuzaka
2006: Chris Carpenter, Jeff Suppan
2005: Mark Buerhle, Jon Garland
2004: Curt Schilling, Pedro Martinez
2003: Josh Beckett, Dontrelle Willis
2002: Ramon Ortiz, Jarrod Washburn
2001: Curt Schilling, Randy Johnson
2000: Mike Mussina, Roger Clemens

Apologist · **Posted:** Thu May 21, 2009 1:58 pm

Peavy may be running out of teams to go to if he doesn't approve the deal.

The grass would be certainly greener than in SD with a decent chance to win over the course of his contract, and afford Peavy the chance as a competitor to prove he isn't just a product of Petco park. The DH may help him as it allows pitchers to stay in the game longer for more opportunities at wins, and a 1-2-3 of Buerhles- Peavy- Danks would be very competitive with anyone.

Cant blame KW for trying...

SHARK · **Posted:** Thu May 21, 2009 2:14 pm

The latest snag in the rumored Peavy deal...If you read between the lines, it's that $22 million option come 2013 and whether Uncle Jerry and the White Sox would be willing to pay it.

Jalapenos and More · **Posted:** Thu May 21, 2009 2:19 pm

I don't expect Williams to attempt another big trade if he can't land Peavy. He might as well give up on '09 if doesn't and start dealing away the pieces.

If the Padres pick up $5M of the 2013 option, and the Sox buy him out for $4M, if Peavy can command more than $13M four years from now and come out ahead. He should still be in his prime.

Bucky Chris · **Posted:** Thu May 21, 2009 2:19 pm

"The latest snag in the rumored Peavy deal...If you read between the lines, it's that $22 million option come 2013 and whether Uncle Jerry and the White Sox would be willing to pay it."
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SHARK: I heard Peter Gammons say the same thing. Lotta money for the next few years.

Apologist · **Posted:** Thu May 21, 2009 2:21 pm

I actually think it's a fair contract for a front-line pitcher; now whether or not you think he's a frontline pitcher is another matter entirely.

SHARK · **Posted:** Thu May 21, 2009 2:25 pm

Chris, that's why I don't think Jake Peavy's coming here...

Even though Uncle Jerry runs the White Sox & Bulls differently, that's too much $$$$ over the long haul.

Curious Hair · **Posted:** Thu May 21, 2009 3:03 pm

I hate this "Uncle Jerry" shit.

Darkside · **Posted:** Thu May 21, 2009 3:06 pm

No. We all know that the deal is done. Don't worry about the money. That's all worked out.
This is about JP now.

Darkside · **Posted:** Thu May 21, 2009 3:22 pm

Wait...
Were the Sox trying to get Dave McGinnis?

SHARK · **Posted:** Thu May 21, 2009 3:24 pm

Darkside wrote:

Wait...
Were the Sox trying to get Dave McGinnis?

No, but the Bears were many years ago and held a press conference to announce his hiring alright. :oops:

Too bad Dave never signed the contract... :oops:

Chris_in_joliet · **Posted:** Thu May 21, 2009 3:48 pm

RFDC wrote:

Frank Coztansa wrote:

but anytime you can land a Cy Young winner for a few prospects, you pull the trigger.

That is what many Cub fans were saying this offseason, but most Sox fans I remember disagreed. Again, just funny how perspective changes when it is on the other side of town.

A guy called into the score this morning wanting to know what their "Baseball Expert" had to say about this trade now, because back in Feb it was a horrible trade and Peavy was washed up and blah blah blah. Well M&H cut the guy off right away and made some lame excuse about payroll. Well he will still cost the same on the south side right? Exactly.

crosscheck · **Posted:** Thu May 21, 2009 5:38 pm

well, so much for that pipe dream, chicago tribune live is reporting that peavy turned the deal down.

hawkeye · **Posted:** Thu May 21, 2009 5:51 pm

Yeah it was exciting for the day but I'm glad we still have Richard. I think he's going to be a pretty good pitcher. And it would have really hurt the minor league system. Oh and I think he's a giant pussy for not agreeing to the trade because he wanted to stay in the NL. You know he'd accept the trade when he's dealt to the Cubs before the deadline so he doesn't have anything against Chicago. It would have been fun had the trade gone through though.

crosscheck · **Posted:** Thu May 21, 2009 6:02 pm

I'm sure he saw the 20-1 performance today and felt a lot better about being in san diego

Aggravated Sox Fan Bob · **Posted:** Thu May 21, 2009 6:19 pm

I heard a rumor that the Sox wouldn't pick up that option year of the contract right now.

Kenny seems to be adept at some big splash move....ignoring the gaping holes at 3B, CF, 2B, Lead off hitter...#2 hitter......

Kenny is attempting to make a move off the seat of his pants here.

Everyone would love Jake Peavy........but this damned team is swiss cheese.

Walt Williams Neck · **Posted:** Thu May 21, 2009 6:26 pm

He is right now electing to stay with the Padres,opting to ok a trade to a team that has a chance to win it all. Maybe the Ranger can explain what Jake's thoughts are.The Ranger knows nothing.

Urlacher's missing neck · **Posted:** Thu May 21, 2009 6:30 pm

be glad it didnt happen. You do not want to be owing this guy 22 mil 4 yrs from now. He could be awful by then. I think the only way you pick up a guy like this is if he almost guarantees to put you over the top for a championship, that is it. You can be competitive for the division with young guys, you don't need to spend tens of millions just to be competitive. I think for a team like the sox, doing the moneyball thing is smart until your cheaper young guys get good good, but instead of dumping all your players and starting all over again, you go for it all. The sox should go and trade off some of their older guys and get brandon wood. That guy would rake at the cell like you wouldn't believe. He also plays good D at third or SS. You will learn to deal with the strikeouts when you see all the bombs he will hit.

Walt Williams Neck · **Posted:** Thu May 21, 2009 6:35 pm

Urlacher's missing neck wrote:

be glad it didnt happen. You do not want to be owing this guy 22 mil 4 yrs from now. He could be awful by then. I think the only way you pick up a guy like this is if he almost guarantees to put you over the top for a championship, that is it. You can be competitive for the division with young guys, you don't need to spend tens of millions just to be competitive. I think for a team like the sox, doing the moneyball thing is smart until your cheaper young guys get good good, but instead of dumping all your players and starting all over again, you go for it all. The sox should go and trade off some of their older guys and get brandon wood. That guy would rake at the cell like you wouldn't believe. He also plays good D at third or SS. You will learn to deal with the strikeouts when you see all the bombs he will hit.

Wood has under 10 lifetime homers.???????????????????

Darkside · **Posted:** Thu May 21, 2009 7:03 pm

SHARK wrote:

Darkside wrote:

Wait...
Were the Sox trying to get Dave McGinnis?

No, but the Bears were many years ago and held a press conference to announce his hiring alright. :oops:

Too bad Dave never signed the contract... :oops:

Aw heck, SHARK... sometimes a joke don't work without it's subtlety, you know?

Aggravated Sox Fan Bob · **Posted:** Thu May 21, 2009 7:09 pm

Walt Williams Neck wrote:

Urlacher's missing neck wrote:

be glad it didnt happen. You do not want to be owing this guy 22 mil 4 yrs from now. He could be awful by then. I think the only way you pick up a guy like this is if he almost guarantees to put you over the top for a championship, that is it. You can be competitive for the division with young guys, you don't need to spend tens of millions just to be competitive. I think for a team like the sox, doing the moneyball thing is smart until your cheaper young guys get good good, but instead of dumping all your players and starting all over again, you go for it all. The sox should go and trade off some of their older guys and get brandon wood. That guy would rake at the cell like you wouldn't believe. He also plays good D at third or SS. You will learn to deal with the strikeouts when you see all the bombs he will hit.

Wood has under 10 lifetime homers.???????????????????

I don't think I am the only Sox Fan tired of watching guys striking out constantly.

Urlacher's missing neck · **Posted:** Thu May 21, 2009 7:11 pm

Walt Williams Neck wrote:

Urlacher's missing neck wrote:

be glad it didnt happen. You do not want to be owing this guy 22 mil 4 yrs from now. He could be awful by then. I think the only way you pick up a guy like this is if he almost guarantees to put you over the top for a championship, that is it. You can be competitive for the division with young guys, you don't need to spend tens of millions just to be competitive. I think for a team like the sox, doing the moneyball thing is smart until your cheaper young guys get good good, but instead of dumping all your players and starting all over again, you go for it all. The sox should go and trade off some of their older guys and get brandon wood. That guy would rake at the cell like you wouldn't believe. He also plays good D at third or SS. You will learn to deal with the strikeouts when you see all the bombs he will hit.

Wood has under 10 lifetime homers.???????????????????

David Price only has 12 major league strikeouts, but he probably sucks too.

http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/ ... od-1.shtml

he is only 24 and has never really been given much of a chance to settle in and play consistently. He has 150 or so minor league hr's. I am sure there are many teams who would love to have him.

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