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rogers park bryan

Post subject: Re: Sox at Reds

Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 12:03 pm

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good dolphin wrote:

Elmhurst Steve wrote:

This game did nothing to support those who argue the "superiority" of the AL central over the NL central. .

5-3, all on the road against teams with .500 or better records in NL Central, 7-4 overall

Cubs have an 800 Winning Pct against AL Central

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Frank Coztansa

Post subject: Re: Sox at Reds

Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 12:14 pm

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Wake me up when they sweep somebody other than the Indians. Ohio has 2 minor league teams claiming to be professional.

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Post subject: Re: Sox at Reds

Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 12:18 pm

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rogers park bryan wrote:

Cubs have an 800 Winning Pct against AL Central

5-3 is an 800 winnig pct?? You must be using that new math I've been hearing so much about.

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rogers park bryan

Post subject: Re: Sox at Reds

Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 12:19 pm

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Keyser Soze wrote:

rogers park bryan wrote:

Cubs have an 800 Winning Pct against AL Central

5-3 is an 800 winnig pct?? You must be using that new math I've been hearing so much about.

Forgot about the Twins Series. My mistake.

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good dolphin

Post subject: Re: Sox at Reds

Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 12:57 pm

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At least the NL is a little more competitve this year with the AL only winning 53% of the games so far. 4 AL teams actually have a losing record against the NL

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Post subject: Re: Sox at Reds

Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 1:05 pm

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good dolphin wrote:

Elmhurst Steve wrote:

This game did nothing to support those who argue the "superiority" of the AL central over the NL central. .

5-3, all on the road against teams with .500 or better records in NL Central, 7-4 overall

Somehow, it would still be blamed on the fact that the AL has a DH and therefore head to head competition is unfair for judging strength.

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rogers park bryan

Post subject: Re: Sox at Reds

Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 1:06 pm

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good dolphin wrote:

At least the NL is a little more competitve this year with the AL only winning 53% of the games so far. 4 AL teams actually have a losing record against the NL

The tide is turning...IMO the AL dominance peaked in 04-05...and has been coming back since.

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rogers park bryan

Post subject: Re: Sox at Reds

Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 1:08 pm

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:

good dolphin wrote:

Elmhurst Steve wrote:

This game did nothing to support those who argue the "superiority" of the AL central over the NL central. .

5-3, all on the road against teams with .500 or better records in NL Central, 7-4 overall

Somehow, it would still be blamed on the fact that the AL has a DH and therefore head to head competition is unfair for judging strength.

The only thing about the DH...is its one more postion to spend money on...but the head to head games are fair.

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Frank Coztansa

Post subject: Re: Sox at Reds

Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 8:25 pm

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Right, because no NL team (Santana, Oswalt, Haren, Lilly, Dempster, Zito, etc) would spend that money on an extra pitcher :roll:

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Post subject: Re: Sox at Reds

Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 9:39 am

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Frank Coztansa wrote:

Right, because no NL team (Santana, Oswalt, Haren, Lilly, Dempster, Zito, etc) would spend that money on an extra pitcher :roll:

None of those guys are "extra" pitchers frank. Every team has it's 5 starters and wants the best 5 they can get, a good 6-7 inning guy, a hold specialist and a closer. The "extra" pitcher is always a bullpen guy, some inning eater who gets put in mop up roles. The "extra" pitcher < the "Extra" hitter.

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Post subject: Re: Sox at Reds

Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 10:06 am

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Ok, maybe not an 'extra' pitcher. But the point is that NL teams spend money that would be alloted to a DH on a pitcher- starter, closer, setup, or otherwise.

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rogers park bryan

Post subject: Re: Sox at Reds

Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 10:20 am

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Frank Coztansa wrote:

Ok, maybe not an 'extra' pitcher. But the point is that NL teams spend money that would be alloted to a DH on a pitcher- starter, closer, setup, or otherwise.

you have a point francis but the NL is at a slight disadvantage when it comes to free agents...like guys who can still hit but cant play the field...ortiz a couple years ago...thome...frank thomas...NL teams cant go after those guys...but AL teams can get value.

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good dolphin

Post subject: Re: Sox at Reds

Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 10:40 am

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rogers park bryan wrote:

Frank Coztansa wrote:

Ok, maybe not an 'extra' pitcher. But the point is that NL teams spend money that would be alloted to a DH on a pitcher- starter, closer, setup, or otherwise.

Ah, how quickly we forget Peavey and Oswalt.

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Post subject: Re: Sox at Reds

Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 10:41 am

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Yeah, nobody can hit and field (even relatively poorly) in the NL!

Braun, Pujols, Howard, Fielder, Soriano, Manny....

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rogers park bryan

Post subject: Re: Sox at Reds

Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 10:44 am

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good dolphin wrote:

rogers park bryan wrote:

Frank Coztansa wrote:

Ok, maybe not an 'extra' pitcher. But the point is that NL teams spend money that would be alloted to a DH on a pitcher- starter, closer, setup, or otherwise.

Ah, how quickly we forget Peavey and Oswalt.

ah yes luring pitchers is harder in the AL. So I guess its even.

I wish they would just do the DH in the NL. Both should be the same either way but I prefer the DH. Its crazy its like if the Western Conference had a 5 fouls and your out rule or the AFC doesnt have 2 pt conversions.

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rogers park bryan

Post subject: Re: Sox at Reds

Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 10:45 am

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Frank Coztansa wrote:

Yeah, nobody can hit and field (even relatively poorly) in the NL!

Braun, Pujols, Howard, Fielder, Soriano, Manny....

Right thats the point frank when those guys become soooo bad they have to DH they will go to the AL...NL teams will be out of luck

Pujols is a good fielder

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