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What the fuck is going on with this antiquated concept of "journalistic integrity"? That idea went out the window with "governmental integrity" c.1940, finished completely off by c.1973.

It's an ideal kids, not reality.

Of course it would be great if doing less-than-honorable things were not necessary to get the needed information for a good story or for a good bill to be passed. Occasionally it does happen, but it's in spite of the norm rather than being the norm.

I don't know if everyone is wracked with sadness about Cronkite or if there was an "All the President's Men" marathon recently on AMC that I missed, but let's not go batshit crazy with this "journalistic integrity" crap. We hope there is some, but if you think it's the norm, you don't really have a lot of contact with how things (sadly) work these days in either of those fields specifically, or in life more generally.

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My personal opinion on the Erin tapes is that it was WRONG for someone to do that.That being said Erin uses her sexuality ALL the time to her advantage and obviousely its been working.She got the job BECAUSE of her looks,period.She is very friendly with a lot of the people she covers and is "flirt" and plays to the camera at all times.
Again not right what was done to her and the people should pay for it.............


Sure Erin looks great...but she also really does have a great personality & does a good job.
Obviously good looks are important in TV, but dont let Erins good looks make you think that she isnt good at what she does. As far as sideline reporters go, she's the best, regardless of looks.


Asking stupid questions on the sideliness can be done by just about anyone regardless of looks.......I cant ever remeber her asking one question that wasnt a "cliche" type or a "gimmie"....Like "you just scored a TD how does it feel to score a TD"...WOW now thats reporting!!


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My personal opinion on the Erin tapes is that it was WRONG for someone to do that.That being said Erin uses her sexuality ALL the time to her advantage and obviousely its been working.She got the job BECAUSE of her looks,period.She is very friendly with a lot of the people she covers and is "flirt" and plays to the camera at all times.
Again not right what was done to her and the people should pay for it.............


Sure Erin looks great...but she also really does have a great personality & does a good job.
Obviously good looks are important in TV, but dont let Erins good looks make you think that she isnt good at what she does. As far as sideline reporters go, she's the best, regardless of looks.


Asking stupid questions on the sideliness can be done by just about anyone regardless of looks.......I cant ever remeber her asking one question that wasnt a "cliche" type or a "gimmie"....Like "you just scored a TD how does it feel to score a TD"...WOW now thats reporting!!


No...it isn't easy. You would crap your pants in that situation.
Dont hold her good looks against her.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 11:21 am 
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Scorehead wrote:
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Asking stupid questions on the sideliness can be done by just about anyone regardless of looks.......I cant ever remeber her asking one question that wasnt a "cliche" type or a "gimmie"....Like "you just scored a TD how does it feel to score a TD"...WOW now thats reporting!!


No...it isn't easy. You would crap your pants in that situation.
Dont hold her good looks against her.

Thats one of the dumbest comments ive seen on this board.
Congrats JK...youve made history.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 11:27 am 
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rogers park bryan wrote:
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Asking stupid questions on the sideliness can be done by just about anyone regardless of looks.......I cant ever remeber her asking one question that wasnt a "cliche" type or a "gimmie"....Like "you just scored a TD how does it feel to score a TD"...WOW now thats reporting!!


No...it isn't easy. You would crap your pants in that situation.
Dont hold her good looks against her.

Thats one of the dumbest comments ive seen on this board.
Congrats JK...youve made history.


Its close but LoHo saying sports radio is "artform" has to rank as the dumbest comment EVER!!!!


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rogers park bryan wrote:
Scorehead wrote:
TheSerb wrote:

Asking stupid questions on the sideliness can be done by just about anyone regardless of looks.......I cant ever remeber her asking one question that wasnt a "cliche" type or a "gimmie"....Like "you just scored a TD how does it feel to score a TD"...WOW now thats reporting!!


No...it isn't easy. You would crap your pants in that situation.
Dont hold her good looks against her.

Thats one of the dumbest comments ive seen on this board.
Congrats JK...youve made history.


I second that emotion.

With only the most rudimentary knowledge about everyone on this boad, I'm sure there are dozens of people here who have perfomed live in front of hundreds or thousands of people on a number of occasions ... I am part of that group as well. I was never so comfortable in my life - much to my surprise - when I played in front of thousands, with Mel Torme (obviously before he croaked).

Those people we performed for were all right there in front of us; conversely, she's talking to a camera guy, perhaps the guy holding the cables, and some nitwit athelete. She's not teaching our nation's children to read. She's just yammering incessantly with one other person in front of about two other people. I've had higher-populated conversations in my old dorm floor shitter (it seated six comfortably).

The only real difference between talking to a camera and talking to the wall is that they won't put you in the nut-hatch for the former. To say differently is because one chooses to make more out of it than there really is.

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Don Tiny wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Thats one of the dumbest comments ive seen on this board.
Congrats JK...youve made history.


I second that emotion.

With only the most rudimentary knowledge about everyone on this boad, I'm sure there are dozens of people here who have perfomed live in front of hundreds or thousands of people on a number of occasions ... I am part of that group as well. I was never so comfortable in my life - much to my surprise - when I played in front of thousands, with Mel Torme (obviously before he croaked).

Those people we performed for were all right there in front of us; conversely, she's talking to a camera guy, perhaps the guy holding the cables, and some nitwit athelete. She's not teaching our nation's children to read.

The only real difference between talking to a camera and talking to the wall is that they won't put you in the nut-hatch for the former. To say differently is because one chooses to make more out of it than there really is.

True...but have you considered that JK's son is a Defensive Back and his coach favors the cover-2?

Now what do you think?


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C'mon now ... I get the gist but again I'm not for bringing Scorehead's (or anyone else's) progeny into the discussions (even though it is an established reference).

(and as far as my post above, I know ... you're happy for me)

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thousands, yes...
hundreds of thousands, no.

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Don Tiny wrote:

I second that emotion.

With only the most rudimentary knowledge about everyone on this boad, I'm sure there are dozens of people here who have perfomed live in front of hundreds or thousands of people on a number of occasions ... I am part of that group as well. I was never so comfortable in my life - much to my surprise - when I played in front of thousands, with Mel Torme (obviously before he croaked).

Those people we performed for were all right there in front of us; conversely, she's talking to a camera guy, perhaps the guy holding the cables, and some nitwit athelete. She's not teaching our nation's children to read. She's just yammering incessantly with one other person in front of about two other people. I've had higher-populated conversations in my old dorm floor shitter (it seated six comfortably).

The only real difference between talking to a camera and talking to the wall is that they won't put you in the nut-hatch for the former. To say differently is because one chooses to make more out of it than there really is.


I saw your performance, you weren't nervous because you were all hopped up on Novocaine :wink:

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doug - evergreen park wrote:
thousands, yes...
hundreds of thousands, no.

... "hundreds or thousands", I sez ...

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Look, sure many of us "perform" in front of many people. I give sales presentations to large groups of people, sometimes 100 to 200. Obviously merely asking the questions that a sideline reporter does is fairly simple.
My problem with the tone of this discussion is that many here somehow think that this is Erin Andrews fault because "she sells sex". I have news for you, I see more sex being sold on my kids High School campus than I do by Erin. What the fuck do you want her to wear, Amish dresses? Should we blame a Women for dressing nice & looking good?
I hope like hell that they catch the creep who rigged her Hotel room with the peephole.

For the record, here are my 3 keys to a good presentation:

1. Preperation.
2. Dont eat a big meal before.
3. Take a good dump before.

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For the record, here are my 3 keys to a good presentation:

1. Preperation.
2. Dont eat a big meal before.
3. Take a good dump before.

You should follow the same keys when posting.

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Anyone have a link to the video? I can't find it and I don't care if I am a cretin cause i want to see it.

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Pretty good show but I don't know if Dan's admittance to whipping out the one hitter and sharing some tokes with Bears players is a good move as Im sure the next time he's speeding in the Chicago/ Central Canada area the police would be more likely to do more than just write a ticket. :?

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Look, sure many of us "perform" in front of many people. I give sales presentations to large groups of people, sometimes 100 to 200. Obviously merely asking the questions that a sideline reporter does is fairly simple.
My problem with the tone of this discussion is that many here somehow think that this is Erin Andrews fault because "she sells sex". I have news for you, I see more sex being sold on my kids High School campus than I do by Erin. What the fuck do you want her to wear, Amish dresses? Should we blame a Women for dressing nice & looking good?
I hope like hell that they catch the creep who rigged her Hotel room with the peephole.

For the record, here are my 3 keys to a good presentation:

1. Preperation.
2. Dont eat a big meal before.
3. Take a good dump before.


What the hell is your deal?

At no point in your original post, or in the follow-up replies to it (including my dissertation) was anybody's point about her selling sex. You said the reader would crap their pants doing what she did.

Now unless you were under the impression she was making scattological porn, I don't think you were referring to her selling sex, but instead interviewing atheletes.

It's like you write something, have three more conversations in your head that nobody else hears, then pick up writing as though we heard those conversations.

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Anyone have a link to the video? I can't find it and I don't care if I am a cretin cause i want to see it.

Ya know what im starting to notice...

Shakes=honesty.


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Anyone have a link to the video? I can't find it and I don't care if I am a cretin cause i want to see it.

Ya know what im starting to notice...

Shakes=honesty.


Well then, including you, that makes one of us ...

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My personal opinion on the Erin tapes is that it was WRONG for someone to do that.That being said Erin uses her sexuality ALL the time to her advantage and obviousely its been working.She got the job BECAUSE of her looks,period.She is very friendly with a lot of the people she covers and is "flirt" and plays to the camera at all times.
Again not right what was done to her and the people should pay for it.............


Sure Erin looks great...but she also really does have a great personality & does a good job.
Obviously good looks are important in TV, but dont let Erins good looks make you think that she isnt good at what she does. As far as sideline reporters go, she's the best, regardless of looks.


This is going to feel so odd and funny to say, but I actually agree with you.

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Anyone have a link to the video? I can't find it and I don't care if I am a cretin cause i want to see it.


check out uselessjunk.com. I don't know if it is still up or not.

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Well regardless of anyone's moral stances or "journalistic integrity" nonsense, i thought it was a great listen this morning just to hear them fired up at each other.

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Well regardless of anyone's moral stances or "journalistic integrity" nonsense, i thought it was a great listen this morning just to hear them fired up at each other.



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 12:29 pm 
Pants going Who Ya Crappin' on Mac is great radio. This is by far the best he's sounded since this show started.


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Mac is back peddling like Peanut Tillman on this one. Mac you said you would whore yourself out . Spiegs -1 Mac-0.


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Anyone have a link to the video? I can't find it and I don't care if I am a cretin cause i want to see it.


Try totallynsfw.com.

Plenty of other pron at this site, too.

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I wish I was a better writer. I could be employed, have access to and possibly have sex with athletes. Sounds like the perfect job, but I think the sex part should only be for fun and have nothing to do with work.
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Pretty good show but I don't know if Dan's admittance to whipping out the one hitter and sharing some tokes with Bears players is a good move as Im sure the next time he's speeding in the Chicago/ Central Canada area the police would be more likely to do more than just write a ticket. :?


Yea...I gotta believe he is backpeddling now because either Mitch or Dans agent, or both, told him he is bordering on dangerous territory.
Who the fuck would admit on the air that he spoked pot with Bears players???
As a longtime Mac fan, he's losing me...

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Don Tiny wrote:
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Look, sure many of us "perform" in front of many people. I give sales presentations to large groups of people, sometimes 100 to 200. Obviously merely asking the questions that a sideline reporter does is fairly simple.
My problem with the tone of this discussion is that many here somehow think that this is Erin Andrews fault because "she sells sex". I have news for you, I see more sex being sold on my kids High School campus than I do by Erin. What the fuck do you want her to wear, Amish dresses? Should we blame a Women for dressing nice & looking good?
I hope like hell that they catch the creep who rigged her Hotel room with the peephole.

For the record, here are my 3 keys to a good presentation:

1. Preperation.
2. Dont eat a big meal before.
3. Take a good dump before.


What the hell is your deal?

At no point in your original post, or in the follow-up replies to it (including my dissertation) was anybody's point about her selling sex. You said the reader would crap their pants doing what she did.

Now unless you were under the impression she was making scattological porn, I don't think you were referring to her selling sex, but instead interviewing atheletes.

It's like you write something, have three more conversations in your head that nobody else hears, then pick up writing as though we heard those conversations.

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Mac talked about how Erin Andrews "sells sex".

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Don't think for a second that the same thing does not occur on the political beat.

I know for a fact that Kennedy used Helen Thomas as a slumpbuster.

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Who the fuck would admit on the air that he spoked pot with Bears players???


Who would admit to something like that? I'm not even sure how that's done...

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