No, they played well, considering. Con-fucking-sidering the fact that the interior D-line is incapable of getting any push whatsoever, and they can't even hurry the opposing QB without a blitz.

This game was a fucking travesty. The Bears should apologize to the sport of football for this "performance." I think I'd be willing to actually murder Pace for that false start. I mean, what the fuck. What. The. Fuck. That looked to be a sneak, so there was no reason he had to be in a big-ass hurry to get a good jump. All he had to do was not fuck it up and fuck us once a-fucking-gain on that drive. But no. Nope, we just couldn't have a single positive play on that drive without someone getting his head trapped in his rectal duct.

12 men on the field? Really? Again? Someone explain to me how this manages to continue being a problem. What, no one on the coaching staff can count?

Last but not least, I'm officially on the "Fuck Ron Turner" bandwagon. Frankly, when you're generally losing two yards per run play, you just need to concede you can't run. He didn't do that. But that wasn't what got me on the bandwagon. What did it was running twice in a row from the 2 yard line, the second time after your RB just fumbled the ball and you were lucky to recover it. Somehow, he thought a sweep play was the way to go there. Unimaginable. I really never thought humans who seemingly are in control of their faculties could possibly be that stupid. The Bears have several red-zone plays in their arsenal which have succeeded every goddamn time they've been run. Yet, Turner opts to run twice in a row, on a night where his running game hadn't done a single positive thing.

Thank god I have beer in the fridge.

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IB, the price of freedom is eternal vigilance.

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Also (I thought this was amazing), the stats they showed for the field splits on the CBs were unreal. The "Tillman" side (also probably the Roddy White side tonight; it was tough to tell) was performing ridiculously well.

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That's what I said, but then I considered that if they went no huddle, that'd make it harder for Turner to run his obligatory run play that loses two yards every series. So they're not going to do that. They're a running team, damnit, even if they can't run.

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Probably the most frustrating play of the game IMO. How in the hell does that happen?

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Nah. You are giving Atlanta too much credit. The Bears outplayed the Falcons tonight & lost...you said so yourself. Atlanta is a good team, but I wont say they are better than the Bears after watching tonights game. However, at the skill positions, I would rather have Turner, White & Gonzo than Forte, Hester, & Olsen. QB is a toss up so I'll be a homer & take Cutler.

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They need to run the ball, if for no other reason but to make the play fake honest. If you lose the PA pass, you're screwed with this O-line.

I also disagree with Matt about the play calling on the goalline. They ran one of those "always works" plays on first down and the Falcons were all over it. The second down call was just a plain "dive" play and not altogether surprising or interesting; If Forte holds onto the damn ball he might get in, or get close enough for the sneak. The sweep play is one of those things that, if it works, it looks great, and it would have worked if they sold out against the pass on the exterior, which they did on first down.

I do agree with you about the secondary/pass rush, however. Its the rush that's the problem, not the secondary. The interior was fine, at least against the rush, but this team simply cannot rush four and get to the QB with any consistency. I'm not a big fan of the defensive scheme, but it's probably a necessary evil given the weakness at DE.

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Especially at that juncture. That simply cannot happen. It's minimized because they were able to get a lucky interception (which, surprise, was fumbled of course), but very nearly ended the game then and there.

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He's right, too.

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If Omiyale isn't immediately replaced by Beekman tomorrow then something is rotten in the state of Hallas Hall...

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Oh, they need to run the ball, but they cannot. They just can't. Which brings me to the most important point, which I somehow neglected:

I have decided this coaching staff is incompetent, as long as they continue to run Omiyele out there (I don't care to spell that piece of filth's name correctly). This line is not good enough to have a total dog as its left guard. I understand they want him to get experience, but they just can't afford it. If they're going to have him in, they have to accept that they cannot run the ball.


You disagree, but they fumbled twice, and didn't get close to the goal line on either attempt (Edit: the first time because, surprise, piece of filth let a man get under him, causing Forte to have to jump too early).


I still think they should bump receivers at least some. They never do it. Ever. That makes it too tough on the secondary. People don't understand what those guys are up against. They're almost always short-handed because of blitzes, and the opposing QB usually has a nice pocket to throw from. You're going to see lots of completions under those circumstances, no matter how good your corners and safeties are. They better cut Tommie next year. I said they should cut him this year, and I was clearly right. Yeah, you got burned on the bonus money, but that's no reason to get burned a second time on salary. You can't pay a guy that kind of money, and still have a line that gets no interior penetration.

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That's probably my biggest coaching complaint as well. I understand that evaluating O-lineman isn't always easy without game tape. I also understand that how people play during the preaseason isn't always indicative of their preparedness during the week, or their ability during the long haul of practices. But the evidence has more than accumulated that Omiyale is just really bad. And Beekman was a relative bright spot on the line last year. That's a switch that should have been made a month ago.

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If that's not a line that screams "abandon the running game," then there is no such thing.

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I forgot that Ron Turner called the "fumble the football" play.

Look, he did exactly what you said he should do on first down; they ran almost exactly (if not exactly) the same play they ran two weeks ago against Detroit. The Falcons sold out against the pass, because after a while you can't keep using play action at the goal line and expect it to work, and those sorts of plays only really work when the defense sells out against the run. So on second down they ran a straight dive. Contrary to what you said, it did get close. In fact, if Forte holds onto the ball, he might get in. Worst case scenario is you have the ball on the 3 inch line, at which point you just ram the QB. It's not Ron Turner's fault that Forte didn't hold onto the ball, which caused them to lose yardage and defeated the third down plan.

So now, on third down, you have a few options, but you know that the defense sold out against the pass on first down in a very similar situation. So you break tendency and run a sweep. Sometimes you break tendencies at it works, and everyone says "what a ballsy call" and everyone gets to applaud such presience. And sometimes it doesn't work and we all get to second-guess how stupid it is. And even still, worst case scenario, it should still be a FG, unless Ron Turner also cast an unusually effective hex on Forte while calling the play.

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I like a Saints-Vikings NFC championship game in a big way. I wonder what the line is on that.

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I predict........... Kahlil Bell will be activated for next game, and Bears will sign an OLineman....

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Maybe this is insane, but I remember certain Drew Bledsoe teams winning throwing the ball 50+ times a game. Is it time to cut bait on running the ball for this year? Maybe 15 runs total for a game, but when we "get off the bus running" and gain nothing but 2 yards per carry, we've got problems. I just want to do whatever is the best for this team offensively, and if we can't run, maybe we just have to realize that we can't run.

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Forte only had 15 carries. They're pretty close to that already. How many did Wolfe have? three? under five, I'm sure.

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John Mullin is on CSN now for post game talking about how Cutler "needs to grow up" and other crap after his postgame comments. What did he say? Or is this just some more BS made up by our stupid media?

Oh, so it would have been so much better to just out-and-out waste two plays on the 2 yard line? Even if he doesn't fumble, those are wasted plays. There's just no way he scores there. The evidence throughout the game was clear. He picked up a few yards here and there, but at the goal-line, those were sure losers. The first one was almost excusable, but running again after that fumble was just ridiculous. I'm sorry, that's football-stupid. It just is.


The fullback just got hung up. They probably would have scored if they ran that exact play again. Crossing the tight ends would have done it as well.


...and Pace or some other retard jumps off-sides. You don't seem to appreciate how woeful the line-play is on running plays.


They've ran sweeps many times this season, and it's almost invariably resulted in a loss of yards. I bet better than 2/3's of the time it's resulted in a loss of yards. Sorry, a smart coordinator doesn't run plays which are very likely to use yards in a goal-line scenario. Let me go Stacy King on you: KY-motherfucking-P. He doesn't.

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One of the few good things about a Bears loss is the post game.

Two top sayings

"Stupid Pills"

"They are not pushing guys around" (which is true when it comes to the offensive line)

Then my complaint is when we run. When we get to 4 yds within the goal line, we should run one guy on a fade, another on a cross, and one of the HBs on a flat run. That should be a TD every time. Not this dive or pitch or whatever they want to do. It is a passing play with three reads, success rate around 90%.

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ib was right about the line. Their stats have been lying. Cutler's great but i'm not sure he's a winner

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Really? I hate our sports media. Why does Chicago have so many dumb ones?

Tommie Fucking Harris is the highest paid player on the Bears at $10 Million dollars per year!!! Harris's Bears contract is the equivalent of the Cubs Soriano & Bradley contracts.

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The primary target was the TE on the first play. The Falcons dropped players into the zone, which is exactly what you can't have on those little play action passes on the goal line. They'll kill you every time with any pass defense, because you have no time to throw or wait for routes to develop.

Your attack on the second play call is that "they would have screwed it up on third down anyway", which, OK, I guess I can't argue against what would have happened in an alternate world where Forte didn't fumble, but Ron Turner can't make all his play calls with the expectation that they'll get penalties to negate everything anyway. And once again, for every person complaining about the sweep on third down, there would be a person on here bitching about throwing the ball twice from the goal line.

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This is a historically pathetic running game. Let me ask you this: have you ever seen a team (not just the Bears, any team) that is as pathetic in the running game as this Bears team? Forget the stats for a minute, just go by the eye test. There are defenders in the backfield on Bears running play with mind-blowing consistency. I honestly cannot recall seeing a team that, week-in, week-out is so thoroughly incapable of running the ball.

We're not talking about a team that is poor at running the ball: we're talking about the team that is congenitally incapable of running the ball. Maybe that changes if you get Beekman in there, but as it stands now, you need to be a visionary as an O-coordinator. Refusing to acknowledge your colossal failure to run the ball doesn't fool anyone: it just gives plays away. And that's what they did. They wasted one of three downs just about every time they got a first down. They were in third-and-long all fucking night, and it's mostly because they ran a run up the middle for a loss on first or second down throughout the night.

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No, that one was to the FB all the way. The TE was a decoy.


He can't make his play-calls acknowledging the fact that his line is filled with incompetents? That's strange, because I'd definitely do just that.

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You'll never get three reads off from the goal line. You get, at most, two, and usually they're just "pray the guy is wide open" one read passes because, usually, they are open since there are 10 guys running towards the running back. But that assumes basic competency at running, because if they don't have to focus on that even when you have three TEs on the field, there's no magic answer.



What play call would you have made to have Orlando Pace not jump offsides? Since that seems to be your main fear about 3rd and practically nothing.

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Whoa there, let's not get crazy! The outrage is that the Bears are lucky enough to have the option to walk away from bad contracts, but failed to do so. Say what you will about Hendry, but I have little doubt in my mind he'd nix that contract in a second. I think the finger-crossing era with Tommie Harris is over, even for the most optimistic fan/GM.

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