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 Post subject: Re: The New Big Ten?
PostPosted: Fri May 07, 2010 6:27 pm 
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Another interesting tidbit regarding all this talk of super-conferences. It seems the Big 12 may crumble.

http://dennis-dodd.blogs.cbssports.com/ ... ;headlines

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The unsubstantiated but a "where there's smoke there's fire" scenario seems to be this.

Missouri and Nebraska invited, which they would immediately accept.

Notre Dame given one last "join us now or the dominoes will fall and you'll be forced to join a lesser conference when this game of musical chairs ends". Tough choice for Notre Dame. Rutgers also gets an invite.

Rutgers, who obviously would accept immediately gets them to 14 teams. If Notre Dame joins, then they take another team to fill things out. It would probably be a Big East team. If Notre Dame doesn't join, they probably stay at 14 and see how Texas reacts to the crumbling Big 12.

Spots reserved for either Texas or Notre Dame. If either joins, the other is given one last chance to join and if not they take one more team.

So, if I had to guess right now that Rutgers, Missouri, and Nebraska are going to be the next 3 teams added to the Big Ten with two big time programs having tough decisions to make.

And no, I don't claim to have a guy. All these rumors are on the internet.

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If they get Texas AND Notre Dame, this will be the greatest conference in the United States.

I won't be able to wait to hear the Score not talk about it.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
And no, I don't claim to have a guy. All these rumors are on the internet.


Just own it. Makes it sounds a lot cooler.


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Bucky Chris wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
And no, I don't claim to have a guy. All these rumors are on the internet.


Just own it. Makes it sounds a lot cooler.
I guess it's on ESPN now. They didn't cite me as the source. I'm pissed.

I wonder if Chris Berman is reading this right now.

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I think it is absolutely hilarious that people think Notre Dame gives a flying fuck what other conferences think of them. To think that they will be at some sort of major financial disadvantage is absolutely ridiculous. With revenue from the BTN, all the Big 10 teams do is come to parity with what Notre Dame already has. Notre Dame can do whatever the hell it wants. And sorry guys (directed at the media pundits), they won't become irrelevant. A decade of subpar teams hasn't impacted recruiting, atttendance or the quality of the facilities... why would you think NOT being in a major conference would impact it?

Some Big 10 fans think that Notre Dame is a prententious douchebags for not joining the Big 10. Frankly, I think that says more about those Big 10 fans and their fear of inferiority. Notre Dame can do whatever the hell it wants... and I wish them well regardless. I'd love them in the Big 10, but frankly I think the Big 10 gets more out of it than we'd care to admit.


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This is what Notre Dame has to fear:
1) Conference champion tie-in for a playoff. They will make it very difficult for Notre Dame to make it in. It probably would require an undefeated or one loss season with at least 8 games against major conference teams.
2) Big East getting raided. If the Big East tells Notre Dame to either join in all sports or leave then Notre Dame would be an orphan. Having an independent football team is possible. Having every team be independent is much more difficult.
3) Comcast is not likely to cater to Notre Dame as much as GE was. Notre Dame has been losing leverage with other conferences being bigger draws. ABC and CBS won't be interested in giving Notre Dame the #1 status that ND gets with NBC. That leave Fox to basically use Notre Dame and the BCS to build a football brand.

They would have said the same things about Nebraska and Texas before but now it looks like one is likely joining and another may have to choose between the Pac-10 and the Big Ten.

As for the money, while Notre Dame makes more than they need, I think every Big Ten team made more from television deals last year and that gap is likely to continue to grow even without expansion.

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The other thing is that the Big East may also be poached from by the ACC.

If the Big Ten took Rutgers, Pittsburgh, Syracuse, and the ACC took two Big East teams(for discussion, let's say West Virginia and South Florida) you'd end up with a conference that wouldn't be able to keep the BCS qualifier on number of teams alone.

It could survive as a basketball conference but the whole conference would be relegated to second class status. In reality, it would probably be the end of the conference though as any team with a football team would not want to go independent. If anything, this would require the Big East to make having a football team a requirement, and Notre Dame would be forced to join a wounded conference.

The Big Ten really does have Notre Dame in a tough position. I guess we'll see if Notre Dame calls the bluff or accepts the bigger payday and trades the "independent prestige".

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As your avatar once said, "Agree to disagree."

1) We're so far from a playoff it's not even funny... and if we ever do go to a playoff, I think that ND would absolutely be able to coaxe one of the major conferences to let them in.
2) I'll have to take your word that having an independent status for other sports somehow makes it more difficult
3) As long as ND has even close to the ratings that they've had for the last decade on NBC, they will do just fine. They have a nationwide following that is ridiculously loyal despite have so-so seasons for the last 15-ish years.

I don't disagree that the Big 10 expansion has big reprecussions for all the other conferences. I just doubt that the reprecussions for ND are all that severe. I think some Big 10ers underestimate the power ND has to earn money and influence the national championship rules as they evolve.


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You may be right. If they don't join then it's obvious that they don't think those fears are worth concerning themselves with. We'll see what happens when this whole thing shakes out. If Notre Dame doesn't join, which they probably won't, it shows they aren't concerned about the things I said.

I don't really want 16 teams but if team 15 is either Notre Dame or Texas I think it would be well worth it.

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The Tribune chimes in on the latest rumors ....

chicagobreakingnews.com wrote:
The Big Ten has extended initial offers to join the league to Notre Dame, Missouri, Nebraska and Rutgers, according to a report by Kansas City radio station 810 WHB.

Citing "multiple sources close to the negotiations," the radio station said it is not yet clear whether the Big Ten will expand to 14 or 16 teams, but that Missouri and Nebraska are invited in either scenario. If Notre Dame declines the offer, Rutgers would become the 14th team, the station reported. The Big Ten would then decide whether to make offers to two other schools. If Notre Dame joins, sources told the station that an offer will be extended to another school to form a 16-team league.

Big Ten presidents and chancellors are expected to discuss expansion at meetings in Chicago in June


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Why the Missouri love?

I would think Texas, Oklahoma or Kansas (in that order) would result in a bigger net benefit than Missouri. I understand that Missouri brings you the St. Louis and Kansas City markets, but each of the aforementioned teams have at least one national program which has strong ties in those markets. Kansas seems like a natural fit for the Big Ten in basketball. Kansas would get the benefit from a football perspective and the Big 10 would get the benefit from the association from a basketball perspective, making it a comfortable relationship.

What about trying to poach Kentucky? They could form the one tooth division of the Big 10 with Indiana and Ohio State.

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Mizzou, I understand. Brings some good markets and always seemed like a better fit for the Big 10 than the Big 12. Natural rivalry with the Illini doesn't hurt either.

The one I don't get is Nebraska - do you really need the Omaha market? While everyone in that whole state lives and dies Cornhusker football - the whole state is 1.7MM people.

Notre Dame is a natural fit but they won't join - but may regret it later.

Rutgers - their campus looks like an industrial park. Academics are pretty good, but they don't bring much to the table in sports. I don't think they draw much of the NYC or Philly market, but I could be wrong. I'd rather see Pitt.


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Rutgers - their campus looks like an industrial park. Academics are pretty good, but they don't bring much to the table in sports. I don't think they draw much of the NYC or Philly market, but I could be wrong. I'd rather see Pitt.
I think they are betting on the resources that Rutgers has, and has used to build a program from abysmal to average. New Jersey is a good high school football state and Rutgers is a natural fit for playing a football game in Yankee Stadium which would be a major help to the popularity there. Add in basketball games at Madison Square Garden and the potential is there much more than Pittsburgh which is still in Penn State territory and Syracuse which is in upstate New York which isn't going to compel New York City cable stations to pay the big bucks for the BTN.

Rutgers could end up being almost nothing or they could end up being big. If anything, it will be a good team to beat up on for the teams that need bad opponents to make bowl games like Purdue. :lol:

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Hanley just said that EVERY Big 10 school gets $$$$$$22,000,000 per year from the Big Ten Network!!!!
If this is true, and all these leagues are either expanding or crumbling, this is a no brainer for Notre Dame.
Their over the top self important alumni have to see the forest through the trees here.
They have Tulsa and Western Michigan on the home football schedule this season....if these Super Conferences take shape....they can get used to games like this if they stay independent.

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Rutgers - their campus looks like an industrial park. Academics are pretty good, but they don't bring much to the table in sports. I don't think they draw much of the NYC or Philly market, but I could be wrong. I'd rather see Pitt.


If I were Schiano, I'd be looking for a big payday elsewhere. Rutgers won't be going on those in conference runs to get bowl eligible in the Big Ten.

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As your avatar once said, "Agree to disagree."

1) We're so far from a playoff it's not even funny... and if we ever do go to a playoff, I think that ND would absolutely be able to coaxe one of the major conferences to let them in.
2) I'll have to take your word that having an independent status for other sports somehow makes it more difficult
3) As long as ND has even close to the ratings that they've had for the last decade on NBC, they will do just fine. They have a nationwide following that is ridiculously loyal despite have so-so seasons for the last 15-ish years.

I don't disagree that the Big 10 expansion has big reprecussions for all the other conferences. I just doubt that the reprecussions for ND are all that severe. I think some Big 10ers underestimate the power ND has to earn money and influence the national championship rules as they evolve.



It is not 1966 or even 1988 anymore.
This is all about money, which Notre Dame is really good at.
This "power" of Notre Dame could disappear with the evolution of Super Conferences.....

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As your avatar once said, "Agree to disagree."

1) We're so far from a playoff it's not even funny... and if we ever do go to a playoff, I think that ND would absolutely be able to coaxe one of the major conferences to let them in.
2) I'll have to take your word that having an independent status for other sports somehow makes it more difficult
3) As long as ND has even close to the ratings that they've had for the last decade on NBC, they will do just fine. They have a nationwide following that is ridiculously loyal despite have so-so seasons for the last 15-ish years.

I don't disagree that the Big 10 expansion has big reprecussions for all the other conferences. I just doubt that the reprecussions for ND are all that severe. I think some Big 10ers underestimate the power ND has to earn money and influence the national championship rules as they evolve.



Check some of the abysmal NBC ratings over the last 10 years or so for the all powerful Irish.

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mel junior wrote:
Rutgers - their campus looks like an industrial park. Academics are pretty good, but they don't bring much to the table in sports. I don't think they draw much of the NYC or Philly market, but I could be wrong. I'd rather see Pitt.
I think they are betting on the resources that Rutgers has, and has used to build a program from abysmal to average. New Jersey is a good high school football state and Rutgers is a natural fit for playing a football game in Yankee Stadium which would be a major help to the popularity there. Add in basketball games at Madison Square Garden and the potential is there much more than Pittsburgh which is still in Penn State territory and Syracuse which is in upstate New York which isn't going to compel New York City cable stations to pay the big bucks for the BTN.

Rutgers could end up being almost nothing or they could end up being big. If anything, it will be a good team to beat up on for the teams that need bad opponents to make bowl games like Purdue. :lol:



You are seeing this CLEARLY......this is all about $$$$$$$$!

This has nothing to do with who can beat who in football and hoops.

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mel junior wrote:

Rutgers - their campus looks like an industrial park. Academics are pretty good, but they don't bring much to the table in sports. I don't think they draw much of the NYC or Philly market, but I could be wrong. I'd rather see Pitt.


If I were Schiano, I'd be looking for a big payday elsewhere. Rutgers won't be going on those in conference runs to get bowl eligible in the Big Ten.


Schiano is a NJ guy - grew up there and has an actual affinity for New Jersey.

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I think they are betting on the resources that Rutgers has, and has used to build a program from abysmal to average. New Jersey is a good high school football state and Rutgers is a natural fit for playing a football game in Yankee Stadium which would be a major help to the popularity there. Add in basketball games at Madison Square Garden and the potential is there much more than Pittsburgh which is still in Penn State territory and Syracuse which is in upstate New York which isn't going to compel New York City cable stations to pay the big bucks for the BTN.

Rutgers could end up being almost nothing or they could end up being big. If anything, it will be a good team to beat up on for the teams that need bad opponents to make bowl games like Purdue.


Rutgers has the most gain by affiliation with the Big 10. NYC is a funny market for college sports, as there is such a widespread group of alumni they live there. More Syracuse people than you would think and a lot of people from Pennsylvania schools (Temple, Bucknell, Penn State, etc.) for some reason.


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Why the Missouri love?


I'm pretty sure that Missouri is the only one that puts St. Louis within the geographic footprint of the Big Ten. The Big Ten Network gets $.70 per subscriber from markets that are within that "footprint" and $.10 per subscriber from those that are not - not to mention the pure natural geographic reasons for built-in rivalries.

I heard the guy from Missouri Rivals site also say that Mike Anderson has to be salivating to play in the Big Ten with his style and that they could very likely win the Big Ten next year if they were able to get into the conference that quickly (which they won't). Too bad they won't be able to prove that. Good luck with that idea.

The Big 12 has a 24-month required notice for leaving. The Big East has a 27-month notice requirement. At best, most changes won't happen until the 2012 and 2013 seasons.

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I heard the guy from Missouri Rivals site also say that Mike Anderson has to be salivating to play in the Big Ten with his style and that they could very likely win the Big Ten next year if they were able to get into the conference that quickly (which they won't). Too bad they won't be able to prove that. Good luck with that idea.
:lol: What is Missouri supposed to be ranked next year? Will they even be ranked?
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The Big 12 has a 24-month required notice for leaving. The Big East has a 27-month notice requirement. At best, most changes won't happen until the 2012 and 2013 seasons.
There are a lot of rumors going around, but one of them is that notice is required but the penalty is the total revenue that they would have received from the conference. So it could be a situation where any team that leaves simply pays 10-20 million for the second year and still makes more money in the Big Ten since the difference is so large.

Scheduling-wise it couldn't happen for this year and will be very strange in the second year.

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Yeah demolishing Illinois this past year does not mean they could win the Big 10 right away. But they do have a good group of players coming back and a good coach. I would love to see them in the Big 10.

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The one I don't get is Nebraska - do you really need the Omaha market? While everyone in that whole state lives and dies Cornhusker football - the whole state is 1.7MM people.


Nebraska gets monster TV football ratings. They are traditionally in the top 10 of all schools. Plus, from an academic standpoint, they are usually highly rated I believe.

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Plus, from an academic standpoint, they are usually highly rated I believe.

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The one I don't get is Nebraska - do you really need the Omaha market? While everyone in that whole state lives and dies Cornhusker football - the whole state is 1.7MM people.


Nebraska gets monster TV football ratings. They are traditionally in the top 10 of all schools. Plus, from an academic standpoint, they are usually highly rated I believe.


Are those monster ratings outside of state lines of Nebraska?

I don't know the answer and I'm seriously asking.

On the academics front, Nebraska is ranked 96th - 6 spots above Mizzou. To benchmark - Illinois is 39th, Rutgers 66, Notre Dame 20.


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Brief overviews:

1. Notre Dame – The diamond of the group. Obvious positives to landing them. They are the crown jewel of the Independents, a natural fit in the Big Ten geographically, and could be forced out of the Big East in other sports so that the Big East can avoid being torn apart and disappear. Ultimately, the Big East could strike a deal with the Big Ten in which the Big East would tell Notre Dame they are being ejected from all other sports unless they join the Big East in football. The Big Ten would rather join the Big Ten if forced to join a Conference, so they would join the Big Ten, at which point the Big Ten would pass on Rutgers or not take a 2nd Big East school like Pitt. If the Big Ten takes Rutgers and potentially Pitt, the ACC and SEC could raid the Conference for a few other schools to be competitive, which would end the Big East Conference as we know it. Notre Dame brings boatloads of money, a huge nationwide fan base, and enormous rivalry power across the Midwest.

2. Nebraska – The Cornhuskers just recently popped onto the radar and I like it. I’ve always liked this program. The Huskers have an unrivaled tradition, are a rebounding program, are academically on par with other Big Ten schools, and draw a fan based that opens the Big Ten and its network to a market that stretches across 8 states including Texas and Colorado. Plus, Nebraska is on the verge of returning to their perennial powerhouse roots which means a likely consistent top 25 ranked addition to the Conference.

3. Rutgers – You could argue that they belong at #2 in this discussion. Rutgers draw is simple. Academically, they would be up there with Northwestern as one of the top schools in the entire Conference. But more importantly, they are a natural rival to Penn State like OSU is to Michigan (geographically speaking), they blow open the entire New York market to the Big Ten Network, which would reach an additional 20 million people easily over the four state area, and they are a fringe top 25 team every year unlikely to be a doormat like Indiana. The draw for a school like Rutgers is $22-25 million a year in revenue they are not getting in the Big East.

4. Missouri – The wild card. Some say they are the most likely to jump as they seem so raring to go, it’s ridiculous. Because of the lack of revenue sharing in the Big 12, Missouri takes home about $7 million a year in TV Revenue. A jump to the Big Ten would triple and possibly even quadruple that when all is said and done. It’s a massive annual windfall to the program, that could yield an additional $100 million in the first 5 years. There is also the natural rivalry with schools like Illinois, Iowa, Northwestern, and possibly even Minnesota, and now real loyalty to the Big 12.

What are the odds here?

1. Notre Dame – The Big East hasn’t put an ultimatum on Notre Dame yet, which is why I’m surprised they made formal offers already. At this point, I would say ND is a 15-20% shot at making the jump. Mark them as a “NO” right now since the fan base seems opposed. Only the reality of the situation could change this if the Big East doesn’t force it, but it would be unpopular with the fans.

2. Nebraska – God, I would love to see this. Nebraska has been pretty tightlipped about this so far. There is clearly another sizeable financial incentive for them, in the tune of double what they are making right now, or roughly an additional $10-12 million a year in revenue ($50-60 million over the next 5 years). Plus, they put themselves on National TV on a regular basis with the Big Ten and the Big Ten Network. They don’t really have storied Nationally talked about rivalries with Texas and Oklahoma, so jumping ship would not hurt them, but their fan base is loyal so any move like this could be met with some serious criticism. I put their shot at 35-40%, so we can mark them as “UNLIKELY” right now.

3. Rutgers – Not sure what would hold Rutgers back. About five times the money, a more prestigious academic
environment, a huge Midwestern audience, and escape from a Conference that could ultimately be a school or two away from its demise. I think this should be marked as “PROBABLE” and I’ll put this at 60-65% chance.

4. Missouri – We’ve already discussed why they would do this and why they are likely chomping at the bit. The Big 12 is working on contingencies, almost anticipating a jump by Missouri. I’d say they are 80% and we’ll mark them down as “LIKELY”.

If this holds true and Rutgers and Missouri agree to come aboard, that will leave the Big 12 and Big East with sizeable, but patchable holes. I’m thinking the Big Ten would then seek another school, possibly a Pitt or Notre Dame to fill that final slot and create balance. It is at this point that the Big East could force Notre Dame’s hand by threatening to throw them out if they don’t join the Conference. They know ND will never join in football, so by threatening them, it could force ND to jump to the Big Ten, which would allow the Big East to retain Pitt and remain a viable Conference.
This could get real interesting.

Final note:
A realigned Big Ten with additions of Rutgers, Notre Dame, and Missouri could be divided North/South or East/West. Because the Conference map would be spread wide from East to West, that seems to work better than North to South. Otherwise you would have a North Division with Rutgers on the far east and Minnesota and Wisconsin on the far West. Not really a rivalry. The geographical possibilities, assuming the Conference doesn’t force someone into another division to even things out, would most likely look like this:

East
Rutgers
Penn State
Ohio State
Michigan
Michigan State
Notre Dame
Indiana

West
Purdue
Northwestern
Illinois
Wisconsin
Minnesota
Iowa
Missouri

The biggest problem here is having a division that loads Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State, and Notre Dame into a single Division. That can be rectified if we use the State of Indiana, with 3 schools, as the slight offsetting balancer of the divisions. We can swap Purdue with Notre Dame to balance out the power levels.

That would give divisions that look like this (in order of projected 2010 record):

East
Ohio State
Penn State
Michigan
Michigan State
Rutgers
Purdue
Indiana

West
Wisconsin
Iowa
Notre Dame
Missouri
Minnesota
Illinois
Northwestern

Interesting…

This is going to unfold in the next 3-6 months as the Big Ten would like to begin their expanded schedule for the 2012 season, from what I am hearing.


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Rumors are circulating today that the Big East is trying to trump the Big 10 and has also submitted expansion offers to several schools. I have not heard who that may be yet. No word on if Notre Dame is included in that group. As mentioned earlier, if the Big East tells ND that they must either join their football program to the Conference or the Big East will throw all of their other sports out, it could force Notre Dame to accept an offer from the Big 10 via some sort of a phased in settlement over a period of time to allow ND to recoup as much of its TV deal as possible.
The ACC has stated it has a plan in place in case the Big 10 expands, which most believe would involve raiding the Big East for teams (possibly Pitt and Syracuse). BYU is also being considered with Colorado for PAC-10 expansion to keep pace with the Big 10. Finally, there is some discussion that the Big 12 could wind up being the Conference that is torn apart with Nebraska and Missouri potentially heading to the Big 10, Colorado and Oklahoma State heading to the PAC-10, and Texas heading to the SEC, possibly with Oklahoma.
More as it breaks, but there is no doubt that a massive realignment of College Football is the most likely outcome from all of this. If that happens, ND could be forced into the Big 10 whether they like it or not.


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Are those monster ratings outside of state lines of Nebraska?


Yes. They draw from Colorado and other surrounding states.

National TV ratings for Nebraska are behind ND but on par with Penn State, Alabama, Ohio State, Texas, and Michigan from what I've read.

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