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PostPosted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 6:54 pm 
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So you happy Purdue opens up with Notre Dame or would you rather have a couple spankies to beat first?

They'll never do that again. :wink:

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So you happy Purdue opens up with Notre Dame or would you rather have a couple spankies to beat first?
Considering Purdue has won at Notre Dame once in like 30 years(Thanks Orton!) I don't mind it. Obviously playing a few games beforehand hasn't helped so maybe this will.

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Towson? I've never even heard of them. If I wasn't so busy watching the internet update of the U dominating Florida A&M I would look it up.

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RFDC wrote:
So you happy Purdue opens up with Notre Dame or would you rather have a couple spankies to beat first?

They'll never do that again. :wink:
They have NIU scheduled again in 2013. I'll be killed by a hurricane by then though so I won't be able to talk about it here.

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Towson? I've never even heard of them. If I wasn't so busy watching the internet update of the U dominating Florida A&M I would look it up.

I believe Towson is located in the great state of Maryland. Not positive, not gonna look it up.
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They have NIU scheduled again in 2013. I'll be killed by a hurricane by then though so I won't be able to talk about it here.

That's a bummer.


Great run by Garcia in the S. Carolina game.....

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Towson is in the same division as Villanova. I still don't understand how a team can play big time college basketball and not have a football team in the highest division. They'll be screwed over the next 30 years because football is such a bigger money maker that it upgrades all other facitilities. I mean, how come they don't create a Little East or something for all the non-power football Big East schools?

Maybe Villanova_Jim can help me out.

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17-0 the year of the Hoosier continues

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Oh how I've missed the agricultural based commercials that I've grown to love on the BTN.

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Towson is in the same division as Villanova. I still don't understand how a team can play big time college basketball and not have a football team in the highest division. They'll be screwed over the next 30 years because football is such a bigger money maker that it upgrades all other facitilities. I mean, how come they don't create a Little East or something for all the non-power football Big East schools?

Maybe Villanova_Jim can help me out.


I'm pretty sure that while a big time football program brings in by far the most cash of any sport, it also uses most of it. I think the ROI is much greater for a top basketball team. Isn't that right?

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I'm pretty sure that while a big time football program brings in by far the most cash of any sport, it also uses most of it. I think the ROI is much greater for a top basketball team. Isn't that right?
Not even close. Football is all that matters. Even at a place like Purdue who is significantly better both historically and currently in basketball. They literally pay for the whole athletic program.

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Towson scores! It looks like the momentum has switched.

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Towson scores! It looks like the momentum has switched.


All part of the plan. They need some work dealing with adversity.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
I'm pretty sure that while a big time football program brings in by far the most cash of any sport, it also uses most of it. I think the ROI is much greater for a top basketball team. Isn't that right?
Not even close. Football is all that matters. Even at a place like Purdue who is significantly better both historically and currently in basketball. They literally pay for the whole athletic program.


But doesn't Villanova's basketball team pay for its entire athletic program?

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Nice kick.

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I logged off for a few - yes, that was a beauty.....they should hold open tryouts tomorrow morning.


....and now NIU off the upright. :?

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
I'm pretty sure that while a big time football program brings in by far the most cash of any sport, it also uses most of it. I think the ROI is much greater for a top basketball team. Isn't that right?
Not even close. Football is all that matters. Even at a place like Purdue who is significantly better both historically and currently in basketball. They literally pay for the whole athletic program.


But doesn't Villanova's basketball team pay for its entire athletic program?
Nope. They are heavily subsidized by the university
The basketball program only turned a profit of about $1M. Indiana will make that today playing Towson.
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/colleges/villanova/20090401__Nova_is_Final_Four_s_smallest_sports_spender.html

Villanova would be around $10 - $20 million on this list.

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/sports_college/2009/07/how-much-revenue-did-your-favorite-fbs-school-take-in-in-200708-this-chart-will-tell-you.html

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Nope. They are heavily subsidized by the university
The basketball program only turned a profit of about $1M. Indiana will make that today playing Towson.
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/colleges/villanova/20090401__Nova_is_Final_Four_s_smallest_sports_spender.html

Villanova would be around $10 - $20 million on this list.

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/sports_college/2009/07/how-much-revenue-did-your-favorite-fbs-school-take-in-in-200708-this-chart-will-tell-you.html


What about a program like Duke or Louisville? Do their football programs still have a better ROI? It's hard to find accurate numbers for this stuff on the web, but I'm guessing Texas and ND are the most profitable football programs. I'd also guess that Texas might spend the most.

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What about a program like Duke or Louisville? Do their football programs still have a better ROI?
I'd guess it's closer than others, but I would guess it is. Private schools don't have to disclose that information though. One of the reasons for the payouts is also the football television rights fees so Duke gets that even though it sucks.
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It's hard to find accurate numbers for this stuff on the web, but I'm guessing Texas and ND are the most profitable football programs. I'd also guess that Texas might spend the most.
Well yes, they invest more in facilities and other stuff. That was kind of my original point. Villanova basketball will suffer because Villanova football doesn't pay well. Basically, they don't really have much reason to turn a profit. They spend the money they get. They don't pay out dividends and they certainly don't want to give money back to the university so they improve facilities and other things.

This is the reason why you are seeing many traditional football powerhouses become basketball recruiting powerhouses and therefore basketball powerhouses.

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Now you know how we feel when you post as MasterChef.

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Don't know what just happened but it was awesome
Now you know how we feel when you post as MasterChef.

Fixed for the part you left out by mistake...

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Now you know how we feel when you post as MasterChef.

Fixed for the part you left out by mistake...
NO U

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This is the reason why you are seeing many traditional football powerhouses become basketball recruiting powerhouses and therefore basketball powerhouses.


What does it cost to run a big time football program? In that article you linked it says Michigan State spent $45 million on athletics with $6.8 million of it on hoops. How much of the remaining $38.2 million does it take to run the football program? What are there, about eleven non-revenue sports or so?

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This college football season blows already.

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This college football season blows already.


I'm going to wait until the Illini get pasted by Mizzou until I concur.

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